@Deleted User If Niko doesn't have time I might be able to do it

but would you not agree that greed is a vice that we should curb?

Capitalisms most brilliant feature is having never been tried

If we fixed the media and got it to stop promoting degenerate things, the public would demand different goods and the market would provide. The media is ultimately the root of most problems today, imo

capitalism promotes greed (whcih you conceded), yet you blame the media?

Greed is the essence of capitalism.. however, greed can lead to enormous generosity. Some people realize they have too much and tend to give a lot to others... but I would argue it is few and far between. Most want to stack as much as they can.

> capitalism is good <:really:453005408064241674>

capitalism rests on competition

now suppose that I was a butcher

Competition is good

and a friend of mine opened a meat shop across the street from mine

@YourFundamentalTheorum That's an interesting question. The answer is typically no, but where the greed becomes harmful (like billionaires trying to import cheap labor) I'd intervene in the national interest as states above

You can have competition without capitalism

Yup. I agree. National interests and the interests of the well-being of the people should come first

now customers are scarce, so you can't both exist. Would you feel morally right to condemn your comrade to bankrupcy simply because of his choice of profession?

@YourFundamentalTheorum
No

I would argue it's immoral to bankrupt him, for he is your comrade

Agreed

and by doing yourself well you are doing him harm

I would say I'm a national capitalist. Probably the closest example in US history is Teddy Roosevelt

therefore, competition forces people to be immoral

therefore competition is a something to be avoided

>comrade
>nazbol

Meh... idk

>comrade
>his actual name is NPC#504478

Competition is inevitable because the laws of supply and demand are inevitable. Trying to avoid it is utopian fantasizing

Yup^

but the state has to minimize

because it makes people immoral

and develop vice

The only goods transferred should be military issue. Economics itself is a vice

@DairyMaxx juche gang?

I'll say the answer is inbetween, god forbid you call me out as a... *centrist*.

that's handwavy

where is in between then

I don't think it's immoral to want more business to go to you. Now if you were to sabotage your competition, that's one thing, but barring that, competition incentivizes providing a better product in hopes of winning customers

Things that cannot be avoided:
Competition,
Supply and demand,
And
Greed (human nature regardless of tribe)

^^

so we have 2 things that are vices, and instead of fighting them we'll jsut accept them

sounds like a slippery slope into the modern world tbqh

And competition is what leads to growth. minimizing it is a bad idea. Letting it go rampant, is also a bad idea.