Message from @Dinosorcerer
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Because they're first generation. They're the kids of the people that fought and defeated the Empire. As Personified in Kylo Ren. That makes them baby boomers.
Throughout the first movie and much of the second Kylo is conflicted about his identity and who he is. This was an aspect of the hippie movement.
Then towards the end of TLJ he overthrows his master (symbloic of leftist conquest of academia, maybe?) and declares that his goal is to destory and unmake everything constructed by his parents. All the old traditions. Manifested in the Jedi Order.
Ok. But that's what he turns the first order into. That's not what it was from the outset
Rey on the other hand rejects this proposition and declares there is something worth preserving in the old ways and traditions.
Random, but is anyone familiar with Cicada 3301?
Yeah.
Its founder would have been alive during the galactic civil war
No
Yeah, I read an article about Cicada 3301. You gotta be a big-brained nibba
You got me in a spoopy mood
My almonds are too small
Bad writing there. Snoke needed some kind of background. One of the worst things to ever happen to SW lore. Just like how you can apparently quit the jedi order with no consequences and run around the galaxy with force powers ala count dooku.
But as a result it's easy to project Snoke into being a Frankfurt school professor who is tryiing to use a hippie to increase his own political power.
Holy shit what's this wall of text
Sometime i gotta pull down my pants and take a geek lore dump on somone's face.
But snoke clearly wants the first order to succeed the empire. He's not interested in destroying everything like Kylo is
This is why kylo kills him. Their goals are not alligned
Kylo doesn't want to destroy everything. He wants to recreate galactic order in his own image. Snoke wants that as well. Kylo describes that in terms of wanted to break "traditional power structures"
It's pretty bog standard EU stih power struggle crap funny enough.
Yes, but snoke basically wants to recreate the empire. Kylo doesn't want his new system to resemble anything else that's come before
Why did they even need the snow troopers when the planet surface was a salt flat?
They're not snow troopers. They're salt troopers.
That doesn't make any sense.
All that salt from the tears of the SJW rebels.
No one else in that battle was wearing protective gear, or seemed like they would have really needed it at any point in time
Nooo, they gotta be faceless because symbolism and shit.
They can still be faceless like the regular old stormtroopers, but why they gotta look like the snowtroopers from episode V?
The crux of this debate is about Snokes motivation and desires. Gee it would sure be great if we knew a little bit more about that.
Nope, that would be good storytelling. Can't have that.
Yeah. They spend so much time building him up, and then they just kill him for a cheap twist
I'm betting it was originally supposed to be an ice planet, then they decided that was too much Hoth.
Shit we don’t even know how the empire is evil
Well, they blow planets up and murder hella civillians
But before that
And if those planets were enemy planets waging active guerrilla war
The whole planet of Alderaan wasn't doing that, just their princess
Why'd they deserve to get nuked?
But they took half the movie to explain how evil the empire was
Usually the get you emotionally invested from the start