Message from @Jacob
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the part less influenced by Germany
That's correct
The influence has spread though
maybe we should discuss this more deeply on the Slav server
@Jacob indeed, we must learn to harness that power
Polish elections still follow the 1914 Germany Russia border. PiS can now win in the former German parts, but remains stronger in the East. That could have more to do with the differing systems of collectivization and the fact that many Poles in what used to be Germany were moved there from what's now Belarus after WW2
comparing former imperial/colonial borders and present-day voting patterns is an interesting exercise
you find a correlation in many countries
Appendix A: a list of said countries
good call @Nemets
Romania has an even stronger correlation, but I admit to not knowing much about their politics
Almost anyone >>> ottomans
Soviet Union > EU
EEC was fine, but it was always intended to become a United States of Europe
I'm memeing but I'm also serious
Kalergi and others were clear on that
bad economic politices or whatever can be fixed
demographics displacement is hard to fix
Ehh. I think it's best to just say both the EU and USSR are horrible. We suggest, dare I say, a *third position* between communism and neoliberal globalism
I mean if I had to chose I'd pick the USSR
@Alex Kolchak - NY I guess they never miss, huh.
I'd choose the EU/USA because we can do more to turn things around here
@Zilna Jestov oof...
Not to mention I enjoy food
it’s all relative
I honestly doubt communism was as bad as immigrants say it is
I mean ya sure it was bad
but immigrants will always find stuff to whine about
my grandmother and mother just kind of took it for what it was
Anarchists are technically correct that the USSR was not real communism
And that's the space in which the USSR can be praised
my grandma appreciated having a consistent job and living in the decades after WWII when her village was literally razed
Yeah and then Lenin btfod the black army
Bye byeee
but I’m in no way defending the structural failings of communism
just that most ordinary people went along with it because it was decent enough most of the time
Well, the claims are pretty silly if you think about them for a bit. If I'm to believe what immigrants say, they had to wait 4 hours to get bread and everyone was starving. You'd think I'd have family members with stunted growth due to malnourishment if that was actually true.
My family wasn't particularly well off
fun fact: my (American) dad was in Moscow when the first McDonald’s opened there