How effective do you think the "so you're saying nonwhites can't succeed unless they're around white people" argument would be?

sounds very good to me

I see it as a variant off of the "so you think blacks can't compete on an even playing field" argument against affirmative action, which is popular, much though I dislike DR3

look

it's good to hold your enemy to their own standard

the problem with DR3 is that it legitimizes the concept of "racism"

and it frames politics as something that is supposed to be inherently beneficial to people of color

the argument you mentioned is actually smart

It's a tough balance because often we just end up seeing conservatives reinforcing every anti-white leftist standard

As much as I love traditional America, the less American influence a country has in the modern day, the better. American cultural imperialism has wrecked Europe and imposed cultural Marxism

@The Eternal Anglo That's a good point. It's a massive whitepill that Poland used to be the most pro-immigration country

@Nemets That sounds like a reasonable theory

The Iron Curtain had the opposite effect it was alleged to.

In some ways, the Iron Curtain protected Eastern Europe from that. In East Germany, some polls have AfD in first. I'm be no means defending communism of course. Some countries like Italy achieved similar effects without it.

Italy until recently made it nearly impossible to open a McDonalds for example. France also tried to promote French language culture. Obviously it has gone down a bad road, but it's also the birthplace of the New Right

>nearly impossible to open a McDonalds

that’s awesome

Jared Taylor told me that communism may have been a blessing in disguise for Eastern Europe

also someone may have already said this, but PiS (Polish nationalist party) is most popular in Eastern Poland

the part less influenced by Germany

That's correct

The influence has spread though

maybe we should discuss this more deeply on the Slav server

@Jacob indeed, we must learn to harness that power

Polish elections still follow the 1914 Germany Russia border. PiS can now win in the former German parts, but remains stronger in the East. That could have more to do with the differing systems of collectivization and the fact that many Poles in what used to be Germany were moved there from what's now Belarus after WW2

comparing former imperial/colonial borders and present-day voting patterns is an interesting exercise

you find a correlation in many countries

Appendix A: a list of said countries

good call @Nemets

Romania has an even stronger correlation, but I admit to not knowing much about their politics

Almost anyone >>> ottomans

Soviet Union > EU

EEC was fine, but it was always intended to become a United States of Europe

I'm memeing but I'm also serious

Kalergi and others were clear on that

bad economic politices or whatever can be fixed

demographics displacement is hard to fix

Ehh. I think it's best to just say both the EU and USSR are horrible. We suggest, dare I say, a *third position* between communism and neoliberal globalism

I mean if I had to chose I'd pick the USSR

They at least had border controls

@Alex Kolchak - NY I guess they never miss, huh.

I'd choose the EU/USA because we can do more to turn things around here