Message from @Alex Kolchak - NY
Discord ID: 513957443978657793
I'm memeing but I'm also serious
Kalergi and others were clear on that
bad economic politices or whatever can be fixed
demographics displacement is hard to fix
Ehh. I think it's best to just say both the EU and USSR are horrible. We suggest, dare I say, a *third position* between communism and neoliberal globalism
I mean if I had to chose I'd pick the USSR
They at least had border controls
@Alex Kolchak - NY I guess they never miss, huh.
I'd choose the EU/USA because we can do more to turn things around here
@Zilna Jestov oof...
Not to mention I enjoy food
it’s all relative
I honestly doubt communism was as bad as immigrants say it is
I mean ya sure it was bad
but immigrants will always find stuff to whine about
my grandmother and mother just kind of took it for what it was
Anarchists are technically correct that the USSR was not real communism
And that's the space in which the USSR can be praised
my grandma appreciated having a consistent job and living in the decades after WWII when her village was literally razed
Yeah and then Lenin btfod the black army
Bye byeee
but I’m in no way defending the structural failings of communism
just that most ordinary people went along with it because it was decent enough most of the time
Well, the claims are pretty silly if you think about them for a bit. If I'm to believe what immigrants say, they had to wait 4 hours to get bread and everyone was starving. You'd think I'd have family members with stunted growth due to malnourishment if that was actually true.
My family wasn't particularly well off
fun fact: my (American) dad was in Moscow when the first McDonald’s opened there
*that’s when it all went downhill*
My dad got into a Billy Joel concert in Leningrad for free cause he told the guard he was American and Billy Joel was his countryman
Breadlines are likely a real memory but not a daily occurrence. America had gas lines in the 70s. Same idea. The holodomor is undeniable though
oh lol
@TMatthews I mean ya I'm sure Stalin did some bad stuff but I doubt that 70s Eastern block was as bad as they hype it up to be
Life expectancy in Russia was and is atrocious, but that goes beyond just economics
Stalin died in 1953
Let's just say that, as bad as the west is today, we still have nothing remotely near what the Eastern bloc had in terms of thought police. Most of us would be dead or in gulags by now if we did
ya I guess
I mean I'm not denying that there were problems
There are a lot of problems with those regimes. That the best defense of them is "people probably weren't starving as much as they say" is revealing in and of itself
Goodnight Evropeans