Message from @Jacob
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UUUhhh dont you mean paper Dragon 😃
from an isolationist pov, theres no reason for the USA to intervene in Ukraine
there's no reason for us to support russia from an isolationist perspective either
@Alex Kolchak - NY She's that ugly, huh? Okay...
Dunk
just like there was no reason for USA to go into Yugoslavia or Kosovo or Iraq or Libya
OK THATS IT MEET ME IN RUNESCAPE @Papa Pizzagate
or Syria
Azov feeds into the larger narrative of "all nationalists are retarded spergs who throw up romans". We benefit from them failing at all that they do.
America doesn't benefit one way or the other afaik
Without US backing, there is no real Ukrainian nationalist movement and whatever does exist is not strong enough to stop Russia
I want us to withdraw from international politics altogether personally. There's no quicker way to make European nationalism a reality than withdrawing our military protection and support
no but seriously, China benefits from being able to take a 100-year perspective on its future, rather than 4-8 years at a time like we do
or anytime Borzoi talks about China @Papa Pizzagate
but-t-t-t gommunismm is bad XDDD
I dunno about that, Russia is not exactly the most competent country in the world. Furthermore Ukrainian nationalist are heavily entrenched within the general populace.
Why shouldn't we support Russia?
communism is bad, yes.
Why should we support them?
China proves that authoritarianism is good
@Sam Southern - TN We could benefit from trade relations with other countries. From this standpoint, it's in our best interests to have good relations with Russia, and for Ukraine not to be a third world hellhole run by crazies like Azov.
@The Eternal Anglo it's a convo based on russia v the ukraine, not supporting russia in general
>not wanting an autarky
pls @Jacob
Stop paying European bills and the problems fix themselves
@reactionarytree China is more National Socialist than Communist now my dude
China is NatCap rt
Military relations benefit us too unless you're convinced we can take on the entire world.
State-Cap more than general NatCap but still
they're socialist
Globalism is supported largely by our economy
Dengist
@Jacob It isn't Azov running Ukraine into the ground, it's Poroshenko and the Putin flunky Yanukovych before him.
Socialism differs country to country
But they would be 1000 times better if they just dropped Communism entirely.
There are much better Authoritarian government to choose from.
Quick question. What is the normal width and height of a phone camera picture?
Doesn't that depend on the phone
Russia supports Liberation Theology south of the border, and its inherently antiwhite and dehumanizes us as 'evil gringos', and groups who prescribe to it oftentimes engage in narco trafficking to fund their subversive activities while simultaneously snickering at how they're poisoning our country.
ultimately, the state has authority over the economy. they "control the means of production"
@Virgil Azov supported Maidan. They're guilty in this. And Ukraine under Yanukovych was doing a lot better than it is now.
it's Marxism-Leninism-Mao-Zedong-Thought-Deng-Xiaoping-Theory, *guys*
@reactionarytree In reason yes but this government type failed Russia entirely my dude