Message from @Alex Kolchak - NY
Discord ID: 520449557226848260
Ultimately I'm an American Nationalist and am generally dismissive of third world countries, but I can't trust a country like Russia which in order to one up America supports a trashy communist regime like Venezuela which has wrecked their economy, anointed a literal bus driver president, and starves their own people whilst simultaneously blaming America for all of this instead of themselves, and as my avatar implies I am fairly Machiavellian. Don't trust Putin.
for that to happen, loonies like Azov need to be destroyed
China is a paper tiger.
I'll be inviting him into I.E hopefully soon, after he watches farmlands and some more stuff
But so is America
LMAO we're screwed
@Papa Pizzagate you gotta meet my gf sometime, she studies China and she will scare the daylights out of you
UUUhhh dont you mean paper Dragon 😃
from an isolationist pov, theres no reason for the USA to intervene in Ukraine
there's no reason for us to support russia from an isolationist perspective either
@Alex Kolchak - NY She's that ugly, huh? Okay...
Dunk
just like there was no reason for USA to go into Yugoslavia or Kosovo or Iraq or Libya
OK THATS IT MEET ME IN RUNESCAPE @Papa Pizzagate
or Syria
Azov feeds into the larger narrative of "all nationalists are retarded spergs who throw up romans". We benefit from them failing at all that they do.
America doesn't benefit one way or the other afaik
Without US backing, there is no real Ukrainian nationalist movement and whatever does exist is not strong enough to stop Russia
I want us to withdraw from international politics altogether personally. There's no quicker way to make European nationalism a reality than withdrawing our military protection and support
no but seriously, China benefits from being able to take a 100-year perspective on its future, rather than 4-8 years at a time like we do
but-t-t-t gommunismm is bad XDDD
I dunno about that, Russia is not exactly the most competent country in the world. Furthermore Ukrainian nationalist are heavily entrenched within the general populace.
Why shouldn't we support Russia?
communism is bad, yes.
Why should we support them?
China proves that authoritarianism is good
@Sam Southern - TN We could benefit from trade relations with other countries. From this standpoint, it's in our best interests to have good relations with Russia, and for Ukraine not to be a third world hellhole run by crazies like Azov.
@The Eternal Anglo it's a convo based on russia v the ukraine, not supporting russia in general
>not wanting an autarky
pls @Jacob
Stop paying European bills and the problems fix themselves
@reactionarytree China is more National Socialist than Communist now my dude
China is NatCap rt
Military relations benefit us too unless you're convinced we can take on the entire world.
State-Cap more than general NatCap but still
they're socialist
Globalism is supported largely by our economy
Dengist
@Jacob It isn't Azov running Ukraine into the ground, it's Poroshenko and the Putin flunky Yanukovych before him.
Socialism differs country to country
But they would be 1000 times better if they just dropped Communism entirely.
There are much better Authoritarian government to choose from.