still a win for /accelerationism europe/

Which is Italian lmao

@Alex Kolchak - NY won't that just cause more long term problems?

@Alex Kolchak - NY imagine what that would do to popular opinion though if they put them down

The issues are still there

yes. when there’s a next round of protests, it’ll be even more violent and irreversible

Not quite.

Lmao yes quite

Sort of...

@Alex Kolchak - NY good!

Personally I didn't to see a tea party moment with oil

@Sam Southern - TN well, yes and no. Good if they shake things up, but revolutions are generally much worse than whatever worst-case scenario we have in our heads

I’m not sure what little detail you’re debating here, the fact that it’s not part of the Italian state or are you saying that they aren’t ethnically the same people lmao

it’s all well and good until electricity and water services go down...

Is there any compelling reason why they couldn't just elect someone else, or is France doing what Ukraine did?

@Alex Kolchak - NY it's all about precedent imo. if yellow vests turns into something resembling a true revolution, it sets a firm precedent for Europe as a legitimate path to overthrowing their elites.

Ukraine violently overthrew a democratically elected president when they could have just waiting like a year and voted him out lmao

Is France making the same mistake or is there a reason behind this?

muh democracy, good for them if they're moving away from it.

@Jacob French elections are every 5 years, and the election was in 2017. So they’ve got 4 more years of Macron, barring an unconventional scenario, so to speak

*3 years

@Sam Southern - TN oh I'm not saying I support democracy

I'm just saying it's better to vote someone out if the option is there

not if in 5 years the elites force one of their own into power again

I’m not sure I’d ever trust a European election

it's better to end that system and start fresh

well, that's why I said "if the option is there"

the option was there 2 years ago

elites forced one of their own into power

I mean if they forced one of their own in then it wasn't much of an option

@Lawrence of Eurabia well seeing as we can't even trust our own elections lol

well, no, Macron wasn’t forced in. At the time, his platform looked like a “respectable” alternative to le Pen, but still anti-establishment

one could have said the same about obama lol

amazing how quickly these things change.. or, more simply, Macron was a snake from the beginning

he wasn't "forced in," but it was sure as hell set up for him

oh in terms of favorable media coverage and such, of course

Took no time at all lmao

If he misled his way into victory than revolting (peacefully and legally) is acceptable

outstanding @NateDahl76

that reminds me, I gotta go smash that mf like button and post some comments/invite some people to apply on Twitter

there's no such thing as a peaceful and legal revolt afaik. the french sure as hell ain't being peaceful or legal lol