Napoleon was their Napoleon

I can't wait. Caesar here needs to happen as well.

I'd settle for a Thomas Jefferson.

We need a Jackson

Jackson > Jefferson

Based

Also friendly reminder Napoleone Buonaparte was an ITALIAN

Corsican

not to be a downer, but there’s a good chance the protests will be put down, hard. Neither France nor the EU can afford to let them coalesce into something serious.

still a win for /accelerationism europe/

Which is Italian lmao

@Alex Kolchak - NY won't that just cause more long term problems?

@Alex Kolchak - NY imagine what that would do to popular opinion though if they put them down

The issues are still there

yes. when there’s a next round of protests, it’ll be even more violent and irreversible

Not quite.

Lmao yes quite

Sort of...

@Alex Kolchak - NY good!

Personally I didn't to see a tea party moment with oil

@Sam Southern - TN well, yes and no. Good if they shake things up, but revolutions are generally much worse than whatever worst-case scenario we have in our heads

I’m not sure what little detail you’re debating here, the fact that it’s not part of the Italian state or are you saying that they aren’t ethnically the same people lmao

it’s all well and good until electricity and water services go down...

Is there any compelling reason why they couldn't just elect someone else, or is France doing what Ukraine did?

@Alex Kolchak - NY it's all about precedent imo. if yellow vests turns into something resembling a true revolution, it sets a firm precedent for Europe as a legitimate path to overthrowing their elites.

Ukraine violently overthrew a democratically elected president when they could have just waiting like a year and voted him out lmao

Is France making the same mistake or is there a reason behind this?

muh democracy, good for them if they're moving away from it.

@Jacob French elections are every 5 years, and the election was in 2017. So they’ve got 4 more years of Macron, barring an unconventional scenario, so to speak

*3 years

@Sam Southern - TN oh I'm not saying I support democracy

I'm just saying it's better to vote someone out if the option is there

not if in 5 years the elites force one of their own into power again

I’m not sure I’d ever trust a European election

it's better to end that system and start fresh

well, that's why I said "if the option is there"

the option was there 2 years ago

elites forced one of their own into power

I mean if they forced one of their own in then it wasn't much of an option

@Lawrence of Eurabia well seeing as we can't even trust our own elections lol

well, no, Macron wasn’t forced in. At the time, his platform looked like a “respectable” alternative to le Pen, but still anti-establishment