Message from @Caesar
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since that is essentially what there doing
trespassing carries a fine, which is taking your labor value from you
death is only used for people like rapists and murderers who attempt to come
so you believe that forced labor and or death is a just punishment for the crime of trespassing as defined by the USA?
forced labor yes, essentially (fines and community service). death yes, if it is certain areas that are military related
Fun fact
let me make it clear
i dont want to execute them
but if they try and cross, we should be able to use lethal force to stop them
Most trespassing cases are handled with simple fines and civil law suits
fines are forced labor
Why forced labor though?
if fines are a valid substitute
And very rarely go federally to which prison time is given
the people coming across the border typically wont have money we can take
why not just use fines
the people coming across the border typically wont have money we can take
It’s not forced labor, it’s community service
And it’s different for everyone
which is forced labor
so
But it’s not unfairly enforced
There’s regulations and codes
norman just to get this clear since I dont wanna mis-represent you
forced labor doesnt imply "unfair"
the objective is to get money from them right?
no its to keep them out
Your word choice posses a negative connection
but to get money from them if they come
money is used to offset those who slip through, and to deter
I see
so
When you commit a crime and you can’t pay the fine you go into debt to the gov
Community services isn’t you working for free
You’re paying off debt
would the best way to get cash from the not be
i think it would be better to just force labor on them, especially if they arent a citizen
to give them citizenship and collect taxes?