@Napoleon cheems america is being destroyed by biden. he is transforming into not being america

a seceded state would be more american then "america" under biden

stfu

stupid fucking idiot

spamming discord

shove your messages up your ass

no

we need to deport them

if they come back, death

well instead of death, maybe just forced labor

at first the labor will be building the wall

they attempted to come here to steal our jobs and lower our wages, so when we catch them we will take THEIR surplus labor!

if they cant work because disabled

then death or deportation

1. deterrence

2. free labor

i think we should make all prisoners do forced labor

not just illegals

sure we do

we need someone to be macdonald worker

clean people house

wash they dishes

too bad

go somewhere else

no, we will take them in

as laborers in prison

you ever read the story utopia?

people would emmigrate to that country

and then the country would enslave them

not that long ago, less then 1 thousand

forced labor yes

deportation yes

death if they are dangerous

ok so?

morality doesnt change

ok so?

no relevance to present conversation

yes

i wasnt arguing from the book, i was making a connection to explain it better

well also they dont have any right to be here. wages is one negative impact

i believe in objective morality

i dont believe morality is just "whatever the norms of the society are" they are a real thing, as real as math

trespassing carries a fine, which is taking your labor value from you

death is only used for people like rapists and murderers who attempt to come

forced labor yes, essentially (fines and community service). death yes, if it is certain areas that are military related

let me make it clear

i dont want to execute them

but if they try and cross, we should be able to use lethal force to stop them

fines are forced labor

the people coming across the border typically wont have money we can take

the people coming across the border typically wont have money we can take

which is forced labor

forced labor doesnt imply "unfair"

no its to keep them out

money is used to offset those who slip through, and to deter

i think it would be better to just force labor on them, especially if they arent a citizen

again we dont want them here in the first place

its not about the money

the money is a deterrent, and something nice which offsets the damage of them

they suppress wages and steal jobs, they drive up housing costs, they make the culture worse, they vote democrat, they fill up the school systems, they cause crime, etc.

i also oppose legal immigration but that is another issue

for good reason

for most of history, in order to immigrate to another country you had to defeat them in wat

fake news

okay and?

i hate irish too

and contested

they looked at arrest rates, not crimes

and the studies are carried out by businesses who want more workers cheaply

the mexican-american war started because we wanted to immigrate to texas

and that caused disputes

yes

because we had immigrated there

1. i dont care about perr review

2. other studies say the opposite

you can get a study to say anything

why businesses need cheap labor? so they can make more money

i am not sure what study you refer to

i am aware of studies by cato institute'

which is a think tank funded by businesses

other makers of these fake studies are (((immigrant lovers)))

no way that study is true

contradicts basic observation my guy

must of done some statistical manipulation

i gtg

not true

Americans immigrated into texas before the war

ok and?

apparently your a also a dumbass

LOLOLOLOL

decpetive word usage

shut your stinky motuth mexican lover

im done talking to you

deceptive word usages

you should be ashamed ever to engage in debate in this server ever again

dont be a jew simp

okay and?

not meant to pal

and it took you nearly a hundred to whine about my 6 characters

are you autistic? missing a chromosome?