Message from @unclefesterr
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I hope some day we can reclaim the term, since there's nothing inherently wrong with it and it's a pretty good descriptor from a literal standpoint
Yes its a mixed bag anymore. Although lately it doesn't have as bad connotations to it that it used to bring up in 90's skinhead
Anymore the press has accused folks etc of racist this,nationalist that, to where people are fed up and know they are full of crap,so its starting to turn in our favor
That's actually a pretty good lil video from the standpoint of self sufficient, ways to raise kids,protection,etc. & that's all so evil in their eyes,lolš
That's the problem. "white nationalist" sounds "right" when taken literally, but everyone *hears* "White Nationalist" and you are *instantly* a skinhead white trash or larping nazi.
The term, and all the 1.0 crap in any of our minds, has to go away completely. A new vocabulary. A new dialectic.
Something can "come back" when the old meanings have passed on into history and no longer evoke the *old meanings*.
And that will be likely a long long time from now.
@celticflame For the younger generation, like "communist" maybe it doesn't sound as bad, but to anyone old and in control of things it sounds like shit.
For your kids, it may be "ok".
Right now, it's plutonium or cyanide.
Of course you and Jacob already know this, but I think it bears repeating again, and again and again.
@Why Tea Very true, but there are other reasons to avoid the label, other than violent connotations. The normie believes that āwhiteā merely refers to appearance or skin color. The label āIdentitarianā is superior for the reason the connotation is that we prioritize heritage and culture, not just appearance. In addition, we should be open to strategies other than separatism. Not that I wouldnāt support a European homeland, it is ultimately a best case scenario. We can achieve our goals and preserve our people by advancing immigration restriction, freedom of association, and promoting our own identity politics.
Right.
(I didn't say those were the *only* reasons...)
Freedom of association has been important to me since... the 1980s.
Definitely, just throwing my thoughts out there lol
And I switched on immigration, despite being a libertarian, as soon as I realized the truth!
You state it very well.
Identitarian is still very new, but new is what we need.
Itās hilarious that leftists oppose free association because there would be *some* separation. Itās like āNo, everything must be diverse whether you like it or not!ā
Immigration restriction is very achievable, in my opinion, despite it looking like the current Democrats insist on it come hell or high water.
If the republican party could be whipped into it, itās totally possible
Promoting identity politics likewise. A calm explanation, with the shifting demographics of "if it's allowed for these other ethnicities is *has* to be allowed for ours, or you are violating the laws on the books, historical precedent, and justice and fairness. If I can't take credit for what my ancestors did, I can't be blamed for what they did either."
And freedom of association likewise I feel will turn around.
It will be a surprise to the "diversity is a strength and you have to have it because *I say so*!" crowd.
When big ethnic groups like the large Hispanic population, etc. demand it of the Democrats, we'll see a change there.
(Other than the new madness of those like AOC, plenty on the Left see that it's eating itself, and give each other these puzzled looks when the rhetoric goes kooky. "Wut? I didn't sign up for this..."
That's my perspective at the moment but I may be wrong on some or maybe all of it, idk.
For separatism and an ethnostate to actually happen would require something like a total Hispanic takeover of the southwest, *followed* by what *looks like* a successful secession. Hmm. Followed by a very nasty "transitional period", I'd suggest. But once that happened, *if* it did, the precedent would be set. No one in power would give a rat's ass about Montana while they were trying to keep the Dakotas (with the shale oil) and the midwest and East Coast all snug and held together.
Of course that's all near-future pulp fiction stuff at this point.
What you said here is exactly right, imo, for *right now*: ". We can achieve our goals and preserve our people by advancing immigration restriction, freedom of association, and promoting our own identity politics."
I wonder what will come of this Michael Cohen āscandalā
I was unaware of this gent w/Lana nor his work until I saw this video. I have the day off so I'm going to get familiar with Mr. Kohne for the next few hours. https://youtu.be/_17BTHeiy6k
@OttoVonBismarck What scandal? Not that a Cohen involved in scandal is any surprise.
Georgia Chapter should make flyers of this guy and post it throughout the town and campus
Finn said they already have some
I believe he also said that white people were "autistic sociopaths"
I may give the school a call and let them know how I feel about them sponsoring hate.