Message from @ophiuchus
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I agree Jacob
10th plus generation Anglo American here
I heard someone utter the most cheesy, corn ball phrase lately...but at the same time it incapsulates the faustian sprint and the white race perfectly. It's "if you can dream it you can do it"
I'm the based Slav in an IE hat that gives you permission to feel proud of your Anglo heritage
I don't know what Europe should do when it comes to their identity and sovereignty, its not as easy as America. There's a divide between Catalonians and Spaniards, Belgians and Flemmish peoples, where do you draw the line between protecting your identity and history and splitting hairs?
What even is Danish like lmao that's a pastry đ
Danes btfo
You don't have to draw the line anywhere. You network with white advocates no matter what they are, but you still keep your regional culture.
Part of being a white identitarian is respecting the sovereignty of other white groups.
The Danes donât see themselves as white because, until very recently, they didnât really deal at all with non whites. Thereâs an axiom in generic academia hell that âwhiteness did not exist before colonialism,â which is actually pretty much true. Iâm sure the French and Germans saw each other as completely different. That relative distance changed when completely different people were thrown in. When youâre comparing two points that are relatively close, they seem comparatively distant. When youâre comparing the letters A, C, and Z, they donât seem far apart at all anymore.
Yeah @ophiuchus gets it, 100%
And yeah for that logic I donât see âhumanityâ really being seen as a group unless weâre interacting with other intelligent life. I was even pilled on this as a liberal, but I thought about it more in terms of war and world peace
What constitutes a group depends on what it is being contrasted against. Definitions are meaningless if they do not also include what something *is not.*
I don't even know how it's gonna work in the US. I would say we have a chance in the US at forming a new identity and over time, a real ethnicity. Will never work in Europe. Only US, Canada, Aus...
But still just a chance
maybe I'm just subverting the Polish community due to my [[[Kashubian]]] ancestry
@NateDahl76 I've always classified the different groups of people as sub-species almost... we do this to classify other intelligent creatures with several variations, except for Humans.
@Nemets yeah, youâre probably right with that. I donât think it permeated the consciousness of the entire group until later though. The Greeks knew about the differences between themselves and the Ethiopians, etc. I just meant more that âEuropeans started to perceive themselves as a coherent group when they started to interact extensively with very different people.â
Humans have a high enough FST index between groups to count as separate sub species
They do, yes.
Yeah itâs hilarious that people will point at the same canary with a different beak and go âthatâs a subspeciesâ, but with humans...
well, maybe white and subcons are the same sub species
that's only an issue if you believe in pan Europeanism
which I don't
What constitutes a âraceâ depends on how precise you want to be, really.
There are some groups of people so genetically distant from us, they could legitimately be classified as different species because we couldn't make off spring with them.
Like that group with that very special blood type, where mating outside their tribe results in... well, you know
lmao so if my Valentine was an Andaman islander, we couldn't have kids?
If you want to be incredibly broad, Europeans and levantines and Arabs and North Indians are all one race. If you choose to break that cluster down a bit more, youâll have more groups. And so on.
one race, the European and Levantine and Arab and North Indian race
Caucaziods
Itâs difficult I think to delineate âracial Europeanâ from âChristianâ for a while there.
Romanians are more distant too
Christendom and âthe westâ were synonymous for a long time.
what's the most distant ethnicity from whatever I am?
Party trick: ask hapas how it was having impacted wisdom teeth and watch them be confused at how you were able to guess it
If youâre extremely autistic, which I know all of you are, thereâs a website whichâll break down your hunter gatherer and middle eastern farmer components.
@ophiuchus Agreed.
Which I find that subsets of Christians are excellent recruits for our side.
@NateDahl76 okay that's an epic troll
Yep
is wisdom teeth only a European thing?