And yeah for that logic I don’t see “humanity” really being seen as a group unless we’re interacting with other intelligent life. I was even pilled on this as a liberal, but I thought about it more in terms of war and world peace

What constitutes a group depends on what it is being contrasted against. Definitions are meaningless if they do not also include what something *is not.*

I don't even know how it's gonna work in the US. I would say we have a chance in the US at forming a new identity and over time, a real ethnicity. Will never work in Europe. Only US, Canada, Aus...

But still just a chance

maybe I'm just subverting the Polish community due to my [[[Kashubian]]] ancestry

@NateDahl76 I've always classified the different groups of people as sub-species almost... we do this to classify other intelligent creatures with several variations, except for Humans.

@Nemets yeah, you’re probably right with that. I don’t think it permeated the consciousness of the entire group until later though. The Greeks knew about the differences between themselves and the Ethiopians, etc. I just meant more that “Europeans started to perceive themselves as a coherent group when they started to interact extensively with very different people.”

Humans have a high enough FST index between groups to count as separate sub species

They do, yes.

I’ve got that picture saved somewhere...

Yeah it’s hilarious that people will point at the same canary with a different beak and go “that’s a subspecies”, but with humans...

well, maybe white and subcons are the same sub species

that's only an issue if you believe in pan Europeanism

which I don't

What constitutes a “race” depends on how precise you want to be, really.

There are some groups of people so genetically distant from us, they could legitimately be classified as different species because we couldn't make off spring with them.

Like that group with that very special blood type, where mating outside their tribe results in... well, you know

lmao so if my Valentine was an Andaman islander, we couldn't have kids?

If you want to be incredibly broad, Europeans and levantines and Arabs and North Indians are all one race. If you choose to break that cluster down a bit more, you’ll have more groups. And so on.

one race, the European and Levantine and Arab and North Indian race

Caucaziods

It’s difficult I think to delineate “racial European” from “Christian” for a while there.

Romanians are more distant too

Christendom and “the west” were synonymous for a long time.

what's the most distant ethnicity from whatever I am?

Party trick: ask hapas how it was having impacted wisdom teeth and watch them be confused at how you were able to guess it

If you’re extremely autistic, which I know all of you are, there’s a website which’ll break down your hunter gatherer and middle eastern farmer components.

@ophiuchus Agreed.

Which I find that subsets of Christians are excellent recruits for our side.

@NateDahl76 okay that's an epic troll

Yep

is wisdom teeth only a European thing?

Nah asians have larger teeth European have smaller jaws

Oh wow

No, but I want to say Asians have a lesser incidence

Mix it together and you get an extremely high impact rate

one time my dad was having a party and this Asian woman was taking care of a Hapa kid and I had to resist the urge to say "oh I see you're babysitting" and pretend it was a mistake

Don't eskimos not have wisdom teeth

Whether or not you have them from race to race, but most peoples have them I think

@Jacob I see you’re babysitting....your own child

Comparatively, as far as major races go, I want to say we, caucasiods, are most similar to mongoloids. Siberian hunter gatherer component.

The Amerindians are more closely related to them than we are though.

The Khoisan are the most divergent from everyone else.