If it's subjective it's not moral... Objective morality can be situational though

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@pennypal Explain.

Why would it be impossible to have epistemic facts without moral facts?

@pennypal Give me an example of an objectively moral action.

It should be simple, right?

Good question and it's one which I can't explain in a paragraph. So either we have to vc tomorrow or I can give you a book to read.

If morality is not objective then it's based on majority rule or authoritarian mandates... And it's changeable...
Then it's not moralitity. Morality has to be mandated from an external source

Yeah we’ll talk about it sometime

@pennypal Again, give me an example of a morally correct action that is inheritely correct

It's called the partners in crime argument

Because it’s an interesting idea to me that we have no epistemology without ethics

Raping toddlers is always wrong forever

Objective

And if you want in depth break down of it

Why? @pennypal

No, the whole Idea of rape being bad is only because it's bad for the advancement of people.

Then again,

Rape isnt bad for everyone.

I didn't say it was bad for everybody

https://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/3dppd9/partners_in_crime_arguments_moral_error_theory/

Why is the advanced of human beings desirable? @DjPhoenix

@pennypal It needs to be "for everyone" or it's not objective.

Noo

That makes no sense

@fuck12moredeadcops Im sure your intelligent enough to answer that question yourself.

@Deleted User It’s been awhile since I had a good discussion about ethics and epistemology, I look forward to a conversation with someone who isn’t smoothbrained.

@DjPhoenix I think arguing that it’s self-evident is conceding that you have no argument.

Are you free tomorrow?

Murdering in self-defense is very different than murdering somebody for kicks

Yeah probably

Okay. I'll ping you when I'm able to come on.

@fuck12moredeadcops I have an argument, but it seems so obvious I wouldn't think I'd need to give it.

@pennypal You can't "murder" in self defence.

Whatever you know what I meant

Murder is the killing of an innocent person, if the person is trying to kill you, they are not innocent.

Stop

We all get it

Ok buddy, I'll let you belive whatever you want even if it's incorrect.

@fuck12moredeadcops To answer your question, the advancement of society is wanted by a majority of people simply because it advanced their life as well, I.E., longer life expectancy, better food, better equipment.

There are many other examples but I'm sure you get it.