Message from @fuck12moredeadcops
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You heard an argument for subjective morality that holds up?
There is no objectiely "correct" thought.
There.
That’s the other option. @pennypal
And people certainly assert morality
Either it’s objective or subjective
It’s not neither
All ofour thoughts are from emotions, experiences, and relations.
@fuck12moredeadcops
1) If there are no moral facts, there are no epistemic facts
2) There are epistemic facts
3) Therefore, there are moral facts
If it's subjective it's not moral... Objective morality can be situational though
Why would it be impossible to have epistemic facts without moral facts?
It should be simple, right?
Good question and it's one which I can't explain in a paragraph. So either we have to vc tomorrow or I can give you a book to read.
If morality is not objective then it's based on majority rule or authoritarian mandates... And it's changeable...
Then it's not moralitity. Morality has to be mandated from an external source
Yeah we’ll talk about it sometime
@pennypal Again, give me an example of a morally correct action that is inheritely correct
It's called the partners in crime argument
Raping toddlers is always wrong forever
Objective
And if you want in depth break down of it
Why? @pennypal
No, the whole Idea of rape being bad is only because it's bad for the advancement of people.
Then again,
Rape isnt bad for everyone.
I didn't say it was bad for everybody
Why is the advanced of human beings desirable? @DjPhoenix
Noo
That makes no sense
@fuck12moredeadcops Im sure your intelligent enough to answer that question yourself.
@Deleted User It’s been awhile since I had a good discussion about ethics and epistemology, I look forward to a conversation with someone who isn’t smoothbrained.
@DjPhoenix I think arguing that it’s self-evident is conceding that you have no argument.
Are you free tomorrow?
Murdering in self-defense is very different than murdering somebody for kicks
Yeah probably
Okay. I'll ping you when I'm able to come on.