Message from @DjPhoenix
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Rape isnt bad for everyone.
I didn't say it was bad for everybody
Why is the advanced of human beings desirable? @DjPhoenix
Noo
That makes no sense
@fuck12moredeadcops Im sure your intelligent enough to answer that question yourself.
@Deleted User It’s been awhile since I had a good discussion about ethics and epistemology, I look forward to a conversation with someone who isn’t smoothbrained.
@DjPhoenix I think arguing that it’s self-evident is conceding that you have no argument.
Are you free tomorrow?
Murdering in self-defense is very different than murdering somebody for kicks
Yeah probably
Okay. I'll ping you when I'm able to come on.
@fuck12moredeadcops I have an argument, but it seems so obvious I wouldn't think I'd need to give it.
Whatever you know what I meant
Murder is the killing of an innocent person, if the person is trying to kill you, they are not innocent.
Stop
We all get it
@fuck12moredeadcops To answer your question, the advancement of society is wanted by a majority of people simply because it advanced their life as well, I.E., longer life expectancy, better food, better equipment.
There are many other examples but I'm sure you get it.
Why is the continuation of life and the progression of society more desire able than the alternative?
Dj... But it's not at all obvious what constitutes well being beyond simple ideas
And we know this because we have differences of opinion on abortion and the death penalty etc.
If it was obvious wed all agree
It’s wholly subjective to assert these things as more desirable to their alternatives
@fuck12moredeadcops Is your question "why do people not want to die early, live harder lives, and die from the common cold?"
Of course, there are people who desire to live in the "olden days" that's why it's not objectively desirable.
No, my question is “Why are any of these objectively morally superior to their alternatives?”
But if its objective it has to be by majority rules
It's not objective, I never argued that.
I mean subjective
No, @pennypal murder being bad isn't inheritely bad, but a majority thinks it is.
Subjective= majority rules
No, your getting this mixed up.
Exactly
That doesn't mean killing someone is objectively wrong.
It's not
For example, people who are pro euthanasia