Message from @pennypal
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It should be simple, right?
Good question and it's one which I can't explain in a paragraph. So either we have to vc tomorrow or I can give you a book to read.
If morality is not objective then it's based on majority rule or authoritarian mandates... And it's changeable...
Then it's not moralitity. Morality has to be mandated from an external source
Yeah we’ll talk about it sometime
@pennypal Again, give me an example of a morally correct action that is inheritely correct
It's called the partners in crime argument
Because it’s an interesting idea to me that we have no epistemology without ethics
Raping toddlers is always wrong forever
Objective
And if you want in depth break down of it
Why? @pennypal
No, the whole Idea of rape being bad is only because it's bad for the advancement of people.
Then again,
Rape isnt bad for everyone.
I didn't say it was bad for everybody
Why is the advanced of human beings desirable? @DjPhoenix
Noo
@fuck12moredeadcops Im sure your intelligent enough to answer that question yourself.
@Deleted User It’s been awhile since I had a good discussion about ethics and epistemology, I look forward to a conversation with someone who isn’t smoothbrained.
@DjPhoenix I think arguing that it’s self-evident is conceding that you have no argument.
Are you free tomorrow?
Murdering in self-defense is very different than murdering somebody for kicks
Yeah probably
Okay. I'll ping you when I'm able to come on.
@fuck12moredeadcops I have an argument, but it seems so obvious I wouldn't think I'd need to give it.
Whatever you know what I meant
Murder is the killing of an innocent person, if the person is trying to kill you, they are not innocent.
Stop
We all get it
Ok buddy, I'll let you belive whatever you want even if it's incorrect.
@fuck12moredeadcops To answer your question, the advancement of society is wanted by a majority of people simply because it advanced their life as well, I.E., longer life expectancy, better food, better equipment.
There are many other examples but I'm sure you get it.
Why is the continuation of life and the progression of society more desire able than the alternative?
Dj... But it's not at all obvious what constitutes well being beyond simple ideas
And we know this because we have differences of opinion on abortion and the death penalty etc.
If it was obvious wed all agree