Message from @DjPhoenix
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@fuck12moredeadcops
1) If there are no moral facts, there are no epistemic facts
2) There are epistemic facts
3) Therefore, there are moral facts
If it's subjective it's not moral... Objective morality can be situational though
Why would it be impossible to have epistemic facts without moral facts?
It should be simple, right?
Good question and it's one which I can't explain in a paragraph. So either we have to vc tomorrow or I can give you a book to read.
If morality is not objective then it's based on majority rule or authoritarian mandates... And it's changeable...
Then it's not moralitity. Morality has to be mandated from an external source
Yeah we’ll talk about it sometime
@pennypal Again, give me an example of a morally correct action that is inheritely correct
It's called the partners in crime argument
Because it’s an interesting idea to me that we have no epistemology without ethics
Raping toddlers is always wrong forever
Objective
And if you want in depth break down of it
Why? @pennypal
No, the whole Idea of rape being bad is only because it's bad for the advancement of people.
Then again,
I didn't say it was bad for everybody
Why is the advanced of human beings desirable? @DjPhoenix
Noo
That makes no sense
@fuck12moredeadcops Im sure your intelligent enough to answer that question yourself.
@Deleted User It’s been awhile since I had a good discussion about ethics and epistemology, I look forward to a conversation with someone who isn’t smoothbrained.
@DjPhoenix I think arguing that it’s self-evident is conceding that you have no argument.
Are you free tomorrow?
Murdering in self-defense is very different than murdering somebody for kicks
Yeah probably
Okay. I'll ping you when I'm able to come on.
@fuck12moredeadcops I have an argument, but it seems so obvious I wouldn't think I'd need to give it.
Whatever you know what I meant
Murder is the killing of an innocent person, if the person is trying to kill you, they are not innocent.
Stop
We all get it
Ok buddy, I'll let you belive whatever you want even if it's incorrect.