King if you don't get out this channel I'm going to send an even stronger argument

Philosophy is the "why" and science is the "this is why".

I’ve yet to hear an argument for an objective morality which holds up to scrutiny. The most convincing objective moralities stem from a belief in theism, and I don’t think someone can empirically prove the existence of a God, they can only rationalize it’s existence, so it’s insufficient for asserting that all should follow that particular moral code. @Deleted User

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You heard an argument for subjective morality that holds up?

There is no objectiely "correct" thought.

There.

That’s the other option. @pennypal

And people certainly assert morality

Either it’s objective or subjective

It’s not neither

All ofour thoughts are from emotions, experiences, and relations.

@fuck12moredeadcops

1) If there are no moral facts, there are no epistemic facts
2) There are epistemic facts
3) Therefore, there are moral facts

If it's subjective it's not moral... Objective morality can be situational though

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@pennypal Explain.

Why would it be impossible to have epistemic facts without moral facts?

@pennypal Give me an example of an objectively moral action.

It should be simple, right?

Good question and it's one which I can't explain in a paragraph. So either we have to vc tomorrow or I can give you a book to read.

If morality is not objective then it's based on majority rule or authoritarian mandates... And it's changeable...
Then it's not moralitity. Morality has to be mandated from an external source

Yeah we’ll talk about it sometime

@pennypal Again, give me an example of a morally correct action that is inheritely correct

It's called the partners in crime argument

Because it’s an interesting idea to me that we have no epistemology without ethics

Raping toddlers is always wrong forever

Objective

And if you want in depth break down of it

Why? @pennypal

No, the whole Idea of rape being bad is only because it's bad for the advancement of people.

Then again,

Rape isnt bad for everyone.

I didn't say it was bad for everybody

https://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/3dppd9/partners_in_crime_arguments_moral_error_theory/

Why is the advanced of human beings desirable? @DjPhoenix

@pennypal It needs to be "for everyone" or it's not objective.

Noo

That makes no sense

@fuck12moredeadcops Im sure your intelligent enough to answer that question yourself.

@Deleted User It’s been awhile since I had a good discussion about ethics and epistemology, I look forward to a conversation with someone who isn’t smoothbrained.

@DjPhoenix I think arguing that it’s self-evident is conceding that you have no argument.