Message from @Dvir

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2018-11-04 16:50:17 UTC  

How about do like we have done with corporate fraud. Make every corporation identify a Chief Human Resource Officer and that person is responsible under criminal law for immigration law compliance. In other words, in addition to fines for the corporation, that person could go to jail for it.

2018-11-04 16:50:27 UTC  

and the hypocrisy of denigrating certain drugs, whilst protecting and elevating the pharmaceutical drug empire... most notably the slacklers and Purdue pharmaceuticals

2018-11-04 16:51:39 UTC  

I have an idea on how to get corporations to pay taxes, by executive order, corporations found stashing funds offshore, have 72 hours to bring it home and pay taxes on it, otherwise, all of their intellectual property becomes public domain and are no longer subject to enforcement and protection from the United States

2018-11-04 16:52:09 UTC  

That would require a law

2018-11-04 16:52:16 UTC  

how fast would apple pay their taxes?

2018-11-04 16:52:20 UTC  

The executive can't just do something without legal basis

2018-11-04 16:52:44 UTC  

The President is subject to the law

2018-11-04 16:53:00 UTC  

To permit otherwise would be tyranny

2018-11-04 16:53:46 UTC  

doesn't congress have to pass a new law to override an executive order?

2018-11-04 16:53:48 UTC  

And anyway, "stashing funds" isn't illegal, at least not always

2018-11-04 16:54:11 UTC  

No, the Executive needs to provide evidence any order has legal basis. That's why the White House has lawyers.

2018-11-04 16:54:54 UTC  

Just as the Congress needs to provide evidence in every law regarding the Constitutional basis for it. Because even the Congress is subject to the Constitution.

2018-11-04 16:55:45 UTC  

hiding your profits offshore to evade paying your proper share of taxes erodes our economy, especially when they enjoy so many benefits of doing business in the USA

2018-11-04 16:56:17 UTC  

The patriot act slipped through the cracks on that...

2018-11-04 16:57:45 UTC  

Obama couldn't. Only the Congress can repeal laws.

2018-11-04 16:58:08 UTC  

its renewed through 2019

2018-11-04 18:15:20 UTC  

While Obama could not repeal laws, unfortunately he was head of the branch of government which enforces them.

2018-11-04 18:15:52 UTC  

So he could have simply selectively enforce the laws he wants.

2018-11-04 18:50:56 UTC  

@DrYuriMom the US is one of a very few number of countries that requires taxation of income, not earned/generated in its jurisdiction. This is the reason that the US noes not participate in the multitude of double taxation treaties. US is one of a few countries trying to exert its law outside its jurisdiction. Right now the EU is trying to fo the same thing.

2018-11-04 18:52:45 UTC  

A classic example is the global reach of the US law Sarbanes-Oxley

2018-11-04 18:59:36 UTC  

Federal Tax Brackets < Consumption Tax

2018-11-04 19:47:35 UTC  

@Walsp @RyeNorth @Rabbi Shekels @DrYuriMom Anyone wanna talk about the co-opting of words by the humanities, The development of Far-left liberal ideals in academia, and the influence of Russia in Black lives matter. Come join me in chatroom 2 I will moderator it a bit.

2018-11-04 20:01:29 UTC  

Is the use of medical tools to enhance human beings morally troubling?
how the hell can you say anything other than no

2018-11-04 20:01:54 UTC  

like i have no clue how to make tis in to many pages

2018-11-04 20:31:43 UTC  

@DrYuriMom There are already rulings about the 14th, wich was only done to allow Slaves to become US Citizens. That was the thought behind it. Now the Left Extremist and corporatists misuse and abuse it to get citizen rights to illegal Aliens. Tje Justicar did an interestint take.

2018-11-04 20:32:04 UTC  

so in short: How its done today is bullshit and was never intended to be that way

2018-11-04 20:50:03 UTC  

The Supreme Court rules in 1898 that the equivalent of today's illegal aliens, the Chinese, we're guaranteed birthright citizenship by the 14th. It goes back a LOT further than the current debate.

2018-11-04 20:51:27 UTC  

Again, anyone here is subject to US law except diplomats with immunity. That's the whole point of diplomatic immunity- to remove people from jurisdiction of the host country's laws.

2018-11-04 20:51:56 UTC  

Wrong

2018-11-04 20:52:01 UTC  

the Chinese was a Resident

2018-11-04 20:52:27 UTC  

Wong was a legal Resident of the United States, not an illegal alien

2018-11-04 20:52:36 UTC  

If you want to remove people from the 14th without another amendment you need to remove those people from our laws. Ie a treaty granting everyone from a country immunity from our laws.

2018-11-04 20:53:23 UTC  

they're illegal. pretty sure they're already removed from our laws because they have not complied with them.

2018-11-04 20:53:48 UTC  

A lot of people don't comply with our laws. That doesn't mean they aren't subject to them.

2018-11-04 20:54:02 UTC  

The thing is "subject to the juristiction of the United States" is the Important part. Because they are subject to their Country primarily.

2018-11-04 20:54:31 UTC  

if these people had visas their children would be citizens. no questions asked.

2018-11-04 20:54:33 UTC  

But they are subject to ours while they are here unless they have diplomatic immunity

2018-11-04 20:55:20 UTC  

Read what the Lawmakers who made that Law at the time wrote about the 14th Amendment. And there are other Rulings, for exmaple a native American born on American soil - he did not get Citizenship.

2018-11-04 20:55:28 UTC  

Let's just grant all of the Americas immunity to our laws. Then we can honestly say they are not in our jurisdiction

2018-11-04 20:55:35 UTC  

they have rejected our laws. their first act upon entering the country was to break the law.