Message from @SXTYNIEN

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2018-11-04 16:39:06 UTC  

send them back to honduras. they have more appropriate jails for murderers.

2018-11-04 16:39:18 UTC  

As long as we can, the Constitution holds them under our laws

2018-11-04 16:39:33 UTC  

NOW, there would be an option outside the Amendment process

2018-11-04 16:39:56 UTC  

Treaties become constitutional level when ratified by the Senate

2018-11-04 16:40:36 UTC  

If we had a treaty with Honduras that essentially gave ALL their citizens immunity from our laws and not just diplomats, THEN you have a case

2018-11-04 16:40:45 UTC  

rofl

2018-11-04 16:41:02 UTC  

But is that *really* what you want

2018-11-04 16:41:05 UTC  

how about no. how about we just build a fucking wall and put illegals on the other side of it.

2018-11-04 16:41:27 UTC  

Now THAT is perfectly legal

2018-11-04 16:44:23 UTC  

so riddle me this... why do we have immigration laws if immigrants aren't subject to them

2018-11-04 16:44:42 UTC  

either enforce them, or open the borders...

2018-11-04 16:46:58 UTC  

I'm not going to try and defend that. I have always maintained we should go after employers who hire those not legally able to work. But employers don't get punished, only the worker. If we actually held employers accountable with large fines or even the dissolution of their business for repeat offenders, we'd solve the problem almost instantly.

2018-11-04 16:47:13 UTC  

As long as there is a demand, they *will* be a supply

2018-11-04 16:47:35 UTC  

And as with the drug war, all trying to stem supply when there is a big demand will do is waste billions for little to show for it

2018-11-04 16:47:37 UTC  

I agree with that

2018-11-04 16:48:08 UTC  

the war on drugs is as useless as prohibition was

2018-11-04 16:48:24 UTC  

and statistics confirm it

2018-11-04 16:48:29 UTC  

Because trying to control supply when there is a big demand is nonsense

2018-11-04 16:50:17 UTC  

How about do like we have done with corporate fraud. Make every corporation identify a Chief Human Resource Officer and that person is responsible under criminal law for immigration law compliance. In other words, in addition to fines for the corporation, that person could go to jail for it.

2018-11-04 16:50:27 UTC  

and the hypocrisy of denigrating certain drugs, whilst protecting and elevating the pharmaceutical drug empire... most notably the slacklers and Purdue pharmaceuticals

2018-11-04 16:51:39 UTC  

I have an idea on how to get corporations to pay taxes, by executive order, corporations found stashing funds offshore, have 72 hours to bring it home and pay taxes on it, otherwise, all of their intellectual property becomes public domain and are no longer subject to enforcement and protection from the United States

2018-11-04 16:52:09 UTC  

That would require a law

2018-11-04 16:52:16 UTC  

how fast would apple pay their taxes?

2018-11-04 16:52:20 UTC  

The executive can't just do something without legal basis

2018-11-04 16:52:44 UTC  

The President is subject to the law

2018-11-04 16:53:00 UTC  

To permit otherwise would be tyranny

2018-11-04 16:53:46 UTC  

doesn't congress have to pass a new law to override an executive order?

2018-11-04 16:53:48 UTC  

And anyway, "stashing funds" isn't illegal, at least not always

2018-11-04 16:54:11 UTC  

No, the Executive needs to provide evidence any order has legal basis. That's why the White House has lawyers.

2018-11-04 16:54:54 UTC  

Just as the Congress needs to provide evidence in every law regarding the Constitutional basis for it. Because even the Congress is subject to the Constitution.

2018-11-04 16:55:45 UTC  

hiding your profits offshore to evade paying your proper share of taxes erodes our economy, especially when they enjoy so many benefits of doing business in the USA

2018-11-04 16:56:17 UTC  

The patriot act slipped through the cracks on that...

2018-11-04 16:57:45 UTC  

Obama couldn't. Only the Congress can repeal laws.

2018-11-04 16:58:08 UTC  

its renewed through 2019

2018-11-04 18:15:20 UTC  

While Obama could not repeal laws, unfortunately he was head of the branch of government which enforces them.

2018-11-04 18:15:52 UTC  

So he could have simply selectively enforce the laws he wants.

2018-11-04 18:50:56 UTC  

@DrYuriMom the US is one of a very few number of countries that requires taxation of income, not earned/generated in its jurisdiction. This is the reason that the US noes not participate in the multitude of double taxation treaties. US is one of a few countries trying to exert its law outside its jurisdiction. Right now the EU is trying to fo the same thing.

2018-11-04 18:52:45 UTC  

A classic example is the global reach of the US law Sarbanes-Oxley

2018-11-04 18:59:36 UTC  

Federal Tax Brackets < Consumption Tax

2018-11-04 19:47:35 UTC  

@Walsp @RyeNorth @Rabbi Shekels @DrYuriMom Anyone wanna talk about the co-opting of words by the humanities, The development of Far-left liberal ideals in academia, and the influence of Russia in Black lives matter. Come join me in chatroom 2 I will moderator it a bit.

2018-11-04 20:01:29 UTC  

Is the use of medical tools to enhance human beings morally troubling?
how the hell can you say anything other than no