I'd like to set religion aside for this and want to see what other scientific observations led to this conclusion

it's one thing to say what we understand is created from our religion, it's another to say exactly why

from what i understand here was a man that though the earth was flying through a medium, he did some testing to see if this was correct, and found there to be no medium, or firmament

what tests did he do

That goes hard against the religious belief as well, don't know how they would respond to that

I don't really like answers saying that the bible is 100% true, because that implies a lot of bad things that the bible says

you cant really argue against god because its not falsifiable

Hostile defense religious arguments kind of defeat the purpose of the debate

they just fall behind a failsafe and you can't really prod it without exploding

they can just explain anything with "because god"

why is the sky blue? because god made it blue

and it works

even when there is a clear non-religious explanation they just fall behind the safe word

he theorised that if there was a firmament, then light would travel faster in one direction then the other, as one way the light would be going against the firmament, the test he did did not fined these results, this test was conducted using the globe model, and i am trying to fined out who actually did it, this is just from memory

@Nico2020 sounds like michelson and morley

idk

prob

they found that earth was still in the aether

by testing light speed

then einstein came up with a theory that said the earth was still moving

but that the aether didn't exist

The Michelson Morely experiment concluded that aether doesn't exist.

Wrong

how so?

It wasnt conclusive

Actual results say the earth is at rest

Other experiments confirm an ether

Michaelson morely experiment wasn't conclusive cuz it tried to prove ether and failed

also, the two lasers deviating a little was the expected result and the actual resukt

gravitational waves are real

stop lying

No it confirmed the earth isnt moving

Lying?

F off

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Ah, I see a Robert Sungenis (The Principle) bit of propaganda. That quote from Michelson has been butchered, which is a not-uncommon Sungenis tactic. This is the full quote from Albert Michelson:
```This conclusion directly contradicts the explanation of the phenomenon of aberration which has been hitherto generally accepted, and which presupposes that the earth moves through the ether, the latter remaining at rest.```

The Michelson-Morely experiment was designed to test drag through the Luminiferous Ether. The actual conclusion reached was that no such drag was detected. This concludes two things based on two different presumptions: 1) on a rotating earth, aether doesn't exist or 2) the earth is stationary and as such, no drag would be detected. For either conclusion to be reached, one would have to assume either a rotating or a stationary frame of reference.