Message from @raspberry

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2019-07-05 23:33:08 UTC  

it's not zero, it can be whatever less than C. Whatever it is we will never see anything faster than C

2019-07-05 23:33:22 UTC  

and when you say velocity of earth

2019-07-05 23:33:27 UTC  

It must be relative to something else

2019-07-05 23:33:47 UTC  

@raspberry buoyancy doesn't need entropy/thermodynamics. But it's underlying cause is thermodynamics. For example, it assumes fluids have pressure to hold themselves up...entropy describes where this pressure comes from

2019-07-05 23:33:59 UTC  

In a vacuum light should not know where it is. Thus the speed should be C. Period. Any difference would be the velocity of the earth. Yet this experiment says the earth is motionless. Yet they deny that. Houston we have a problem.

2019-07-05 23:34:43 UTC  
2019-07-05 23:34:46 UTC  

it doesn't say earth is motionless, you can only say earth is motionless if you believe we should be able to get that electron I've been talking about to go faster than C lol

2019-07-05 23:35:09 UTC  

so go ahead and try, if you get the electron going faster than C you're right

2019-07-05 23:35:09 UTC  

If the electron is moving fastwr than light but only appears to move at speed C then it wouldnt be a problem

2019-07-05 23:35:13 UTC  

the earth could be motionless

2019-07-05 23:35:37 UTC  

If C were the constant they claim. You could measure the total velocity of earth. Yet it says zero. They deny zero thus C is totally debunked.

2019-07-05 23:36:01 UTC  

what do you mean by velocity of earth

2019-07-05 23:36:06 UTC  

Velocity relative to what

2019-07-05 23:36:11 UTC  

Or the earth is motionless. You can not have it both ways. That is religion not science.

2019-07-05 23:36:41 UTC  

I wouls imagine the limit c screws up measurements of significantly smaller speeds because its a limit

2019-07-05 23:37:06 UTC  

@demonwarrior2266 how do you prove gravity?

2019-07-05 23:37:19 UTC  

Cavendish look it up

2019-07-05 23:37:28 UTC  

I've never seen it proven in person

2019-07-05 23:37:46 UTC  

Velocity related to absolutely motionless. C should be able to measure it. It is such nonsense to say if you are traveling near the speed of light say .9 C and shine a beam of light away it would still go at C. Not .1C. Yet that is their claim. Such nonsense.

2019-07-05 23:37:47 UTC  

like I said, if you can get the electron going faster than C you are correct, classical mechanics holds realtivistically and earth could be motionless relative to (whatever)

2019-07-05 23:37:47 UTC  

Cavendish isn't doable by individuals, only by govt labs

2019-07-05 23:38:31 UTC  

As of yet no one has been able to get an electron measured as going faster than C in any reference frame

2019-07-05 23:38:33 UTC  

Actually its not steve

2019-07-05 23:38:47 UTC  

Steve it's what believers of Einstein believe

2019-07-05 23:38:49 UTC  

The wavelength juat changes

2019-07-05 23:38:52 UTC  

if you can do this please do, take a cathode Ray tube out of your tv and crank up the voltage

2019-07-05 23:38:53 UTC  

How does light know where it is. Is light some god being or something? Light should not know. So if C is a constant we should be able to measure the velocity of the earth.

2019-07-05 23:39:09 UTC  

Or period actually

2019-07-05 23:39:19 UTC  

Yes and we should be able to get that electron faster than C @Steve Angell

2019-07-05 23:39:22 UTC  

so get to work

2019-07-05 23:39:28 UTC  

Cant remember which of the 2

2019-07-05 23:39:29 UTC  

@Fran relative to an aether? Things can move faster than c in general relativity

2019-07-05 23:39:43 UTC  

Again. All you say depends on the earth being motionless.

2019-07-05 23:39:49 UTC  

Except they can't relative to the local space time or "aether"

2019-07-05 23:40:00 UTC  

@raspberry send link

2019-07-05 23:40:08 UTC  

Are u talking about einsteinrosen bridges

2019-07-05 23:40:10 UTC  

But two galaxies can move apart faster than light

2019-07-05 23:40:15 UTC  

I would havw no trust in a C constant speed measuring machine

2019-07-05 23:40:21 UTC  

Nu just space time expansion

2019-07-05 23:40:30 UTC  

Not faster than local speed of light

2019-07-05 23:40:32 UTC  

relative to the one Galaxy the other has to look like it's moving at C