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2020-11-28 10:44:07 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Yeah. Ive been following daily. He does superb work! Only just joined discord... feel old when trying to use it xD

2020-11-28 11:44:41 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Anybody here?

2020-11-28 11:45:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Well i do live in an opposite timezone

2020-11-28 11:45:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Always miss the livestream cause it starts at 1 am here xD

2020-11-28 11:45:59 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

New to this platform

2020-11-28 11:53:22 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Nederlands? Belg hier

2020-11-28 11:53:40 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

-but lets keep the language english-

2020-11-28 11:54:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I use this, with viva and barness channel to do dutch updates on this topic in a podcast setting ^^ just because our belgian news is soooooo terrible

2020-11-28 11:55:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

We had a headline here surrounding the millions fir trump march:

Racists, facists and fantasy believers try to keep trump in the saddle ...

#journalism -.-

2020-11-28 12:06:25 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/782215826328911892/Screenshot_20201115-101220_Twitter.jpg

2020-11-28 13:46:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Can you explain why?

The numbers in general do not ad up though

2020-11-28 13:47:21 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I called them about the article. And them using another paper within the same group as source...

Thats like jerking of with your left hand and calling it sex

2020-11-28 14:17:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Was a general statement. Like everything thst is put out by mediz and gov. Here in belgiun

2020-11-28 14:18:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

In feb. When you looked into the off. Stats website. They stated counting all lung dis. And flu's as covid.

Mixing and matchen graphs with both test and confirmed cases stats.

I could go on

2020-11-28 14:22:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

There is

2020-11-28 14:22:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The who issued a 14 page doc

2020-11-28 14:22:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Telling hosp. How to make that determination

2020-11-28 14:23:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I read it

2020-11-28 14:23:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Had it reviewed by people in the bussiness

2020-11-28 14:23:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And its comp. Mad

2020-11-28 14:23:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And our gov. Does not use multiple sources or statisticians

2020-11-28 14:23:43 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Just 1 institute (sciensano)

2020-11-28 14:24:32 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Im afraid you are seeing this through a lens that is not appropriate for belgium, reg. How the stats are handled

2020-11-28 14:25:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Id be happy to listen to you explain the who guidelines on death counting and assigning the causes

2020-11-28 14:25:43 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

If that is the case, pm me. This is maybe not the place for covid disc. As its the election 2020 page

2020-11-28 14:26:06 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

So now your a mind reader

2020-11-28 14:26:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Great

2020-11-28 14:26:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

;-)

2020-11-28 14:26:15 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Have a nice day

2020-11-28 14:26:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Damn... through my phone and everything.

Get on the telly xD you'll be rich

2020-11-28 14:28:15 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's also funny to notice how when actually asked for your explanation, you push it of with mind reading and a statement as if i already have my mind made up...

That's called not backing up what you say

2020-11-28 14:28:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Im happy to back up mine about the belgian sciensano stats

2020-11-28 14:29:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yeaah ;-) already said that. And told you to instead pm me

2020-11-28 14:29:14 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Now go... run away ;-)

2020-11-28 14:31:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Appareny grennel's case in PA is stopping cert. From being sent to electors

2020-11-28 14:31:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And the opinion stating it could succeed on the merrita

2020-11-28 14:31:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

*merrita

2020-11-28 14:31:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

*merrits

2020-11-28 14:32:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

But havent dug in any deeper

2020-11-28 14:37:18 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

With their method of counting. Which is questionable imho.

Then again im nobody

2020-11-28 14:38:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Still thats no reason to muddy up this chat. Start one and link it here?

2020-11-28 14:41:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

They are here. By counting all flu and ljng disseases, even without corona test as corona cases.

2020-11-28 14:41:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And that is again, all documented on our national website for covid data

2020-11-28 14:42:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

This my differ in other countries though. Yet the document on how to count was issued by the who... so it should not

2020-11-28 14:42:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Thats fair

2020-11-28 14:43:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Thats according to your link?

I will def. Look into that. Caude that would idd say a lot

2020-11-28 14:43:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Not if you checked with previous years...

2020-11-28 14:43:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yet i can understand that they have to make a determination either way

2020-11-28 14:44:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Expanding capacity should have been part of the plan. Not here in belgium though

2020-11-28 14:45:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Shutting it down completly, paying out insane money to those now shuttered does more so

2020-11-28 14:45:43 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

We now have the 2nd largest shortage in europe

2020-11-28 14:45:54 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

In a socialised healthcare system

2020-11-28 14:46:08 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

With 60% + taxes for buss. Owners

2020-11-28 14:46:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

But that may be more bad politics than it is corona itself.

2020-11-28 14:47:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yet if im not mistaken, the surpluss in deaths is all above average life exp. Isent it?

2020-11-28 14:48:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

In europe we have near the harshest lockdowns and measures

2020-11-28 14:48:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yet an openish country like sweden does better if barely so

2020-11-28 14:48:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Just like the netherlands... it does better

2020-11-28 14:48:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I had the 'Vid btw

2020-11-28 14:49:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well yes and no. Italy made some horendous mistakes regarding the elderly

2020-11-28 14:49:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Esp. In rural areas

2020-11-28 14:50:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Just as in belgium most elderly deaths came from nursing houses

2020-11-28 14:50:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And the mismanagment of them (gov. Statement btw)

2020-11-28 14:50:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Jobs according to the WOF

2020-11-28 14:51:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And other inst.

2020-11-28 14:51:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Again, we might be mistaken at the basis that we are talking about hugely differing populations and areas

2020-11-28 14:53:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

There is a diff. Between what epid. Think is sound.

And what human rights allow

2020-11-28 18:22:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Id love it if it came on podbean

2020-11-28 18:28:59 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Finally a group that respects eachother and has honest discussion...

2020-11-28 18:30:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

New to the discord. Have been following everything since the blm stuff

2020-11-28 18:30:58 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I follow this, barnes, viva, pool, ... everyday while moving 20 tons of product at work each day

2020-11-28 18:31:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And do a dutch weekly update in vlog about the US

2020-11-28 18:32:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I like to listen. And think.

I am a foreigner. So the chance of me knowing something you guys dont is slim

2020-11-28 22:26:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Doesnt exist... cmn on man

2020-11-28 22:27:14 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

You can say antifa is not a top down org.

But saying it dont exist is just... sad

2020-11-28 22:28:00 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And ive got some belgian antifas who would disagree with you as well zulu

2020-11-29 08:58:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Hey guys, wasent there a stream yesterday?

Cant seem to find it

2020-11-29 08:59:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Then im all caught up xD gues ill have to wait for the viva stream tonight

2020-11-29 08:59:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Good morning all btw xD

2020-11-29 10:22:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Belgium. But close enough

2020-11-29 10:22:44 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And slowly going mad tbh...

If you guys thinj you have it bad corona and politics wise... phew... look at how we stand

2020-11-29 10:24:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

We just heard that our gracefull overlords will ALLOW us to visit 1 (yes... 1) friend on xmas. But none on new years eve.

Police will check cars and music to determine where they go knocking.

And thats only a minor part of our troubles

2020-11-29 10:34:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And the people act like sheep. Like my best friends who are usually freedom minded give me shit for (as a single) seeing my second allowed contact.

2020-11-29 10:35:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The french at least have balls

2020-11-29 10:35:27 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

As do the dutch... the gave the gov. An ultimatum... stating they wil open and stay open starting feb 11

2020-11-29 10:35:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

But at least you guys get something...

2020-11-29 10:36:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And well... our election system is broken as hell... all elite parties flock together to always get a majority

2020-11-29 10:37:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Her in belgium i was amogst the first to say corona looked bad. (When it was at 7 % deathrate)

My apothecary said it was nothing, doctor said it was a small flu

Everybody said i was nuts

2020-11-29 10:38:17 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Numbers changed... i changed opinion... aaand... noooow it was a bad dissease according to all

2020-11-29 10:38:25 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Jist shows that people are sheep

2020-11-29 10:42:07 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Fact! Well our cow of a health minister told us it was nothing... and proceeded not to reaquire hosp. Materials that she.... had destroyed

2020-11-29 12:46:28 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Try having 2 out of the 3 largest parties not getting to rule. Because 1 found 6 other parties tk join then to get a majority...

2020-11-29 13:27:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Kallah check your facts please... half of em at least are wrong.

2020-11-29 14:10:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And to check how the law works ๐Ÿ˜… smells like some1 has been reading to many headlines and meme's

2020-11-29 14:11:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Kahllah... if you just watch this shows episodes on topic... you'd know all that stuff...

2020-11-29 14:12:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And if you dont trust it... watch another.

But as som1 who follows this, and 2 other law podcasts on the topic.... you need to do better

2020-11-29 14:14:14 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Pointing out several lousy claims does not do away with the 100s of affadavits and constitutional problems.

Yes sidney has 2 bad affadavits

2020-11-29 14:14:22 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yes some people lie

2020-11-29 14:14:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

But you are missing the actual point

2020-11-29 14:18:06 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

No. Wrong again. Read the fucking opinions man. And watch this show and maybe barnes and vivas as well. Hell. Even watch that legal eagle hack for all i care...

But at least inform yourself a little...

I cannot explain over 30h of law breakdown over chat (and i wont)

Come back when you actually watched this show or read the opinions of the judges

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