Sorry.

Im afraid you are seeing this through a lens that is not appropriate for belgium, reg. How the stats are handled

Id be happy to listen to you explain the who guidelines on death counting and assigning the causes

If that is the case, pm me. This is maybe not the place for covid disc. As its the election 2020 page

yeah, but your mind is already made up, so I fail to see the point.

It would be a waste.

So now your a mind reader

Great

;-)

Have a nice day

That is my profession, yes.

Damn... through my phone and everything.

Get on the telly xD you'll be rich

I am.

fairly.

It's also funny to notice how when actually asked for your explanation, you push it of with mind reading and a statement as if i already have my mind made up...

That's called not backing up what you say

Im happy to back up mine about the belgian sciensano stats

I think we will end it here. We are contaminating the channel for everyone else

Yeaah ;-) already said that. And told you to instead pm me

Now go... run away ;-)

Anything news from Trump's World

Appareny grennel's case in PA is stopping cert. From being sent to electors

And the opinion stating it could succeed on the merrita

*merrita

*merrits

But havent dug in any deeper

and that is made even harder in a pandemic where a new category is added to the list, which is why one of the best ways to evaluate this is to just look at totals for all categories of deaths and compare to what we normally see. The CDC has made those numbers available at their website and what we see is that this pandemic is indeed an extraordinary event. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

With their method of counting. Which is questionable imho.

Then again im nobody

I asked them to make Covid a separate channel but for now this channel seems to be a catch all

Still thats no reason to muddy up this chat. Start one and link it here?

@andrasol, you just advanced to level 3!

@meglide well, exactly. When you stand in the pathology department you also see that this is extraordinary. But it isnt creating the mortlity rate the hysterics think.

a death is a death, a dead body is a dead body ... unless you're saying they are fudging the numbers then I don't see your point

@meglide This was normally not a problem, because Cause of death in a NYHA class IV dying in a flu epidemic would be: Primary: Flu, Secondary: Heart Failure.

But then there was no politics involved.

Now you are in a situation where the disease control centers have opinions on these classifications, and in some instances, politicians.

They are here. By counting all flu and ljng disseases, even without corona test as corona cases.

And that is again, all documented on our national website for covid data

This my differ in other countries though. Yet the document on how to count was issued by the who... so it should not

I remember a lady that was managing data and created a program in Florida got fired by gov. Desantis. Cuse the covid numbers were to high.

the main point is that the excess deaths this year are a once in 100 year type of event, so if it's not Covid-19 you got an even greater problem of what the heck is it?

@andrasol which makes sense, as there is no flu in the population at the moment and corona tests does not always have a high sensitivity. You have something called a "clinical diagnosis" which is some times more specific than the tests. These are complicated issues. Its why medschool is 6 years.