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2018-10-24 19:29:20 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Fair enough

2018-10-24 19:31:28 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Anything god-like is by definition supernatural because it would defy what is naturally quantifyable

2018-10-24 19:32:47 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Exactly, until it is

2018-10-24 19:33:06 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Which may not be possible, or may just take time

2018-10-24 19:34:21 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Psychology deigns to comprehend consciousness, neuroscience seeks to define its perameters of operation

2018-10-24 19:40:39 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Is it possible for a consciousness that exists due to being comprised of the different parts of the human body coalescing into a conscious being, to be joined with another consciousness without being destroyed?

2018-10-24 19:41:12 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

By your definition, that consciousness is unique to your own body

2018-10-24 19:43:35 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I've heard that perspective before

2018-10-24 19:44:33 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Mine would lean toward them being one and the same

2018-10-24 19:46:41 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

One main question I would have is: Is it possible for the physiological brain to contain more than one consciousness

2018-10-24 19:47:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

When we have not yet determined how it can contain a single consciousness, how can it contain a second

2018-10-24 19:47:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

No, like how you say it joins with god

2018-10-24 19:51:19 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That would infer that you were incapable of exerting your own will

2018-10-24 19:53:20 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

According to a Christian perspective your will is either a slave to sin or righteousness

2018-10-24 19:54:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

My perspective would be that your will is your intent, and your actions are the embodiment of your intent

2018-10-24 19:54:51 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Therefore your will is free

2018-10-24 19:58:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The Christian argument is that it is because of free will that the decision to eat the fruit ocurred, not the result

2018-10-24 19:59:26 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Thats not necessarily the case

2018-10-24 19:59:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

She ate from the tree because she had the free will to decide between the things that God told her and the things the snake told her

2018-10-24 20:01:30 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Her intent was to find out the truth, her actions were done under the supposition that the snake was telling the truth

2018-10-24 20:01:57 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

She has free will, but decided to act based upon an incorrect supposition

2018-10-24 20:04:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Another argument would be that the existence of the tree and the snake prove that there was free will, because without the ability to explore those options, your will is not free due to being shackled through limitations

2018-10-24 20:07:16 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

So according to that way of thinking, you do innately have free will

2018-10-24 20:09:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

But, if your consciousness is joined by that of an external party, then surely you no longer have free will

2018-10-24 20:09:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Because when your will is no longer your own, it cannot be free

2018-10-24 20:15:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

One thing I find suspicious, is since when did the postal service become organised enough to get multiple packages to their intended destinations at their intended times?

2018-10-24 20:17:52 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That is not true

2018-10-24 20:18:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Free will is the ability to manfest your intentions to the world

2018-10-24 20:19:13 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Which I would argue the regular person has

2018-10-24 20:19:42 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Via my autonomic nervous system, yes

2018-10-24 20:20:41 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

But it is not my intent to overheat, therefore my body automatically does what it ca

2018-10-24 20:21:00 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I could sit in the heat, or move to the shade

2018-10-24 20:25:05 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

If I intended to overheat, my free will allowing me so, I would sit in the heat regardless and sweat

2018-10-24 20:26:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That would mean that through training, people can exert their conscious will into being

2018-10-24 20:28:14 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Which would confirm that it is not strictly necessary to seperate the parts of our consciousness

2018-10-24 20:29:05 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

It may be that certain aspects of the same thing are being held as distinct when in actual fact they are the same

2018-10-24 20:30:43 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Instead of splitting into three aspects of 'consciousness' it is merely consciousness

2018-10-24 20:32:25 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I am saying there is one consciousness, being described as having three different parts

2018-10-24 20:32:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Only because we lack the ability to define the distinctions

2018-10-24 20:34:08 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And that if we have one consciousness, and that the physiological human brain is only capable of suporting a single consciousness, how can we reconcile that our consciousness can join with a God's

2018-10-24 20:39:06 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

But earlier you said that something with a consciousness like our own, you would consider human. Now, the definition we have come to on human consciousness, is not enough. Therefore, logically, either a supernatural consciousness exists, or it does not.

2018-10-24 20:41:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Thats just a different way of saying human in Greek

2018-10-24 20:45:30 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

If God's consciousness is corporeal, and untainted by the material world, not tainted by contact with matter, how can a human with a single consciousness contact it?

2018-10-24 20:45:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Let alone become one with t

2018-10-24 20:46:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And, if any humna did do that, or ever did do that, that consciousness would no longer be corporeal

2018-10-24 20:46:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

It says that his thought is corporeal on that wiki page

2018-10-24 20:47:40 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Sorry no it doesnt

2018-10-24 20:47:48 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I was reading the wrong thing

2018-10-24 20:50:06 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Let me go again: If God's mind is not corporeal, and hasnt been darkened by contact with the material world or matter, how can it be joined with a consciousness that you described as arising from the composite parts of our physical being?

2018-10-24 20:52:17 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

In essence, through some supernatural phenomenon

2018-10-24 20:54:49 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Which is an abstraction of philosophy

2018-10-24 20:56:39 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

No, but neither philosophy nor religion are scientifically quantifiable

2018-10-24 21:02:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I believe where this was all coming from was whether a supernatural or metaphysical being was necessary for humans, and whether atheism replaced that, or in my view whether that supposition was in actual fact a valid supposition and that there is a possibility of a human to exercise their free will to think freely

2018-10-24 23:00:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I said earlier that i think @๏ฟผ๏ฟผ is NPC source code

2018-10-25 01:01:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Timcast Couriers dont need stamps lol

2018-10-25 01:15:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Put them all up in the ritz and worship them

2018-10-25 12:01:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And theyre not normal

2018-10-25 12:01:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Its a traditional type of dress

2018-10-25 12:14:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Gender dysphoria has been around a lot longer than gaming

2018-10-25 12:32:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The DIFFERENCE between homosexuality, (WHICH USED TO BE A CRIME) and pedophilia is that we made it legal for consenting adults to behave however they wish. Children cannot consent to a sexual relationship, therefore when a pedophile acts upon their desires they are guilty of the crime of RAPING a child, not of having a sexual desire for children

2018-10-25 12:36:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Deleted User Resorting to threats and violence only shows that you are unable to have the mental dexterity required to understand the points of view being discussed, stop targeting people with your bile

2018-10-25 12:38:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Deleted User 1. No personal threats, harassment, or other attacks
2. No race-baiting, racism, or other racially charged attacks

2018-10-25 13:08:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Only 3 and a half stars on Amazon though...

2018-10-25 13:11:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Tress I think the incantation is Cogna Statisticum, but just dont try it with a swish and flick

2018-10-25 13:30:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

What would come under American food though? The only thing that comes to mind for me is burgers and hot dogs really

2018-10-25 13:30:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Like BBQ?

2018-10-25 13:31:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@tritrium I thought that to yeah

2018-10-25 13:34:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

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2018-10-25 13:35:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@GingaBomber And also muslims are acting on very conservative principles

2018-10-25 13:35:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thats why I wondered about Tims video being accurate in all cases

2018-10-25 14:30:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

WE SHALL NOT REMEMBER THEM? Fury as Student Union boss vows to DEFACE war memorial

2018-10-25 14:34:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Anyone want to talk about the leftists wanting to deface war memorials?

2018-10-25 14:35:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Fair enough

2018-10-25 14:35:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

This is in the UK

2018-10-25 14:36:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Jes Leftists in the UK maybe dont

2018-10-25 14:38:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Its a fact that our armed forces are made up in the majority by the lwoer classes

2018-10-25 14:38:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@GingaBomber Yeah, we have a class system, nobody will admit it though

2018-10-25 14:40:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@GingaBomber Its the reason why the Middle and Ruling class media dont give a damn about the rape gangs affecting our Welfare and working class populations

2018-10-25 14:42:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I think there were Sihk regiments that were part of the Gurkhas

2018-10-25 14:44:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Is there anything definitive on what the white powder was?

2018-10-25 14:50:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Couldnt it be someone who is trying to show that a call for incivility woudln't necessarily be one sided? That could make it either someone Left or Right leaning who is just trying to point out what could happen with that narrative

2018-10-25 14:53:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Timcast One thing that would be interesting to look into is whether conservative violence (e.g declarations of war to impose order) push people to be more liberal

2018-10-25 16:12:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Yuki I guess her reason was because they were white men

2018-10-25 16:13:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

โ€œMy intention was to promote strong, female leadership and not the eradication and disrespect of history."

2018-10-25 16:14:19 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Except how does eradicating a mural that has men indicate strong female leadership?

2018-10-25 16:15:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Surely, she could advocate that women consider signing up fr the army to give their lives for the sake of others,that would be leadership

2018-10-25 16:28:12 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I wonder how someone with her mindset would react if conscription was for women, and a call for war happened tomorrow where all of her uni friends were killed

2018-10-25 16:29:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Would she think it was a good idea to talk about removing a mural that was dedicated in their honour?

2018-10-25 16:30:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Of course not, which just baffles me how things like this can become common sentiment, detached from all empathy

2018-10-25 16:33:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I would just suggest that anyone wanting to do a similar thing would read more literature from the era. Theres stuff in All Quiet on the Western Front that gives you a harrowing example of the kinds of things these boys and men went through

2018-10-25 16:36:14 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh I'm all for a kind of feminism that makes the playing field level, as in there would be equal demands upon men and women to defend their country

2018-10-25 16:37:09 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah, but you can have a way of thinking and wanting things to be that dont line up with sciety

2018-10-25 16:39:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Undead Mockingbird I know what youre saying, and many who disagree with feminism as it is would argue that its just not the right kind of feminsim

2018-10-25 16:40:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

As a concept, and an idea it certainly does

2018-10-25 16:42:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Would it?

2018-10-25 16:42:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I was going to say, you wouldnt use a knife to chop down a tree

2018-10-25 16:44:28 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I am for a feminism that would be brutally equal

2018-10-25 16:45:50 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Thats why earlier I was talking about women conscription

2018-10-25 16:47:47 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Gendered and racial quotas dont even work toward their intentions

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