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2018-10-10 05:40:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im too lazy for that, despite my wholy family constantly complaining about getting myself a smartphone, keep telling them to just call me on my phone

2018-10-10 05:48:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well whilst i dont have any experience with these schools nor am i american, i would suspect you would know something was up because personal politics is literally their identity from what ive seen.
And they cant stop talking about it

2018-10-10 05:49:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well where i live its not any better and we got plenty of parties

2018-10-10 05:50:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Sure we dont have ppl on the streets rioting or anything

2018-10-10 05:51:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Look you have to understand that nothing going on today is new, this has happened many times before.
The only difference (i think) is that social media is amplifying the effect and the frequence of mass hysterias.

2018-10-10 05:52:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

that is something i quite dont get either kommissar

2018-10-10 05:52:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"raised democrat" like what?

2018-10-10 05:53:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I was apolitical untill i was 24

2018-10-10 05:53:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not on paper kommissar

2018-10-10 05:54:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well i can only speak for my country ofc

2018-10-10 05:54:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

in my country its simple you got:

2018-10-10 05:54:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

What most would say neocons

2018-10-10 05:54:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and then you got a variety of parties on the left that are all socialist

2018-10-10 05:55:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and then u got 1 hard right party and an actual communist party on the other side

2018-10-10 05:55:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Im from belgium anyways

2018-10-10 05:55:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Straight from the "shithole"' πŸ˜„

2018-10-10 05:56:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

no its not that

2018-10-10 05:57:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Its more a fake idea of variety

2018-10-10 05:57:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

when in reality u got 4 choices

2018-10-10 05:57:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and thats when you line up all their policies

2018-10-10 05:59:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Welp the green party here used to be very heavy on enviroment and stuff

2018-10-10 06:00:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but in recent years its more a socialist party with some enviromental flavours as an afterthought

2018-10-10 06:02:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not when large portions of the population still think of it as "raised as X"

2018-10-10 06:03:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dunno what those numbers are, im just going off what i see people say about themselves

2018-10-10 06:04:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I have yet to vote for the same party twice

2018-10-10 06:05:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

u have ppl like that here as well

2018-10-10 06:06:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yes but,

2018-10-10 06:07:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

over here they can put a majority party out of the whole system

2018-10-10 06:07:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

if the other parties decided to band together against said party

2018-10-10 06:07:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and it only has to collect enough to form a majority

2018-10-10 06:07:50 UTC [Subverse #general]  

essentially you can end up with your vote being the majority vote and still end up in the opposition

2018-10-10 06:08:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and when you are dealing with an increasing partisan mentality

2018-10-10 06:08:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well, look at trump and how everything he says or does is bad per default according to some ppl

2018-10-10 06:09:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ive seen that already in my country with a certain party, which are pretty far right lets be honest

2018-10-10 06:09:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yea but my point is

2018-10-10 06:12:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yeah well

2018-10-10 06:12:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i gotta vote in a few days

2018-10-10 06:13:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i gotta vote for local stuff i believe, cant remember

2018-10-10 06:15:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 06:15:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

federal level politics here, honestly at this point i dont see how those matter anymore

2018-10-10 06:15:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yea i been pretty happy with the mayor we had here for the last few years

2018-10-10 06:15:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but im very unhappy with his party on the federal level

2018-10-10 06:17:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I know nothing of indonesian politics but didnt u guys have some serious authoritarian issues not so long ago? or am i confusing that with some of the other countries there

2018-10-10 06:20:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

see thats the thing with these authoritarian regimes

2018-10-10 06:20:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

they never last

2018-10-10 06:20:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Its always a question about how much damage is going to be done before it collapses

2018-10-10 06:22:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well i always think of those things and then it puts thing in perspective from the stupid things we need to deal with here

2018-10-10 06:22:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

like having a 30 year+ long debate about wether or not we gonna build a bridge.

2018-10-10 06:23:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ye man i cant really imagine how that is

2018-10-10 06:23:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i only heard stuff like that from my grandparents

2018-10-10 06:26:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

oh yeah i know about that

2018-10-10 06:29:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 06:30:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

we got a party here now called "islam"

2018-10-10 06:30:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and everyone was hysterical about it when it popped up

2018-10-10 06:30:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

We dont

2018-10-10 06:30:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 06:32:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Unlike our friend at the party "islam"

2018-10-10 06:34:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yeah this islam party we got here is not wahabist

2018-10-10 06:34:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I always compare it to what the christian party wouldve said 2-300 years ago

2018-10-10 06:40:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

over here theyre becoming more conservative then certain countries in the middle east are, at least when it comes to day to day life.

2018-10-10 06:40:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Which i find strange

2018-10-10 06:41:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

or maybe its not that strange given what has been done in the past 30 years

2018-10-10 06:44:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not following

2018-10-10 06:44:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont think ive seen that video

2018-10-10 06:45:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ok just read the first bunch of comments

2018-10-10 06:45:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

See thats what you get

2018-10-10 06:46:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

When you do not adress reality and the issues

2018-10-10 06:46:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and instead decide to sweep it under the rug and call everyone racist

2018-10-10 06:46:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

then that festers and festers

2018-10-10 06:46:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and then you get this

2018-10-10 06:46:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Its not that i am agreeing with their assesment

2018-10-10 06:47:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its more like im not surprised by this at all

2018-10-10 06:47:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i see this stuff everyday

2018-10-10 06:47:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

IRL mind you

2018-10-10 06:48:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I mean i get called a racist quite often

2018-10-10 06:48:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

or rather islamophobic

2018-10-10 06:48:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

which is quite funny to me

2018-10-10 06:48:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

given half my family is morrocan

2018-10-10 06:49:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and they say way harsher things then i do lol

2018-10-10 06:52:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well here is one example

2018-10-10 06:52:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I got a morrocan friend

2018-10-10 06:52:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

hes in his late thirties

2018-10-10 06:52:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

He speaks he native language fluently

2018-10-10 06:52:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 06:53:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But, he came here illegally, hes legal now this was years ago

2018-10-10 06:53:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Now what i find disturbing

2018-10-10 06:53:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

or what i often put out rather

2018-10-10 06:53:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

How do you expect immigrants to function in our society

2018-10-10 06:54:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

when u dont even expect them to speak the language

2018-10-10 06:54:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

What is the most important thing to function in different society

2018-10-10 06:54:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

be able to communicate

2018-10-10 06:54:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

My friend learned it the hard way

2018-10-10 06:55:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So when i hear "the left" sitting there talking about how demanding immigrants to learn the native language or at least one, is somehow a bad thing

2018-10-10 06:55:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well that is effectively what happened

2018-10-10 06:55:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

on the long term that is

2018-10-10 06:57:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

these days that is called racist yes inquisition

2018-10-10 06:58:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Do u know what is on EVERY job application here

2018-10-10 06:58:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

no matter how basic your job is?

2018-10-10 06:58:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 06:58:50 UTC [Subverse #general]  

just basic understanding for the most basic jobs

2018-10-10 06:58:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its on all of them

2018-10-10 06:59:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The way i see this, is that they are handicapping these people from the getgo by not giving them even the most basic tool to function in this country

2018-10-10 06:59:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but clearly many people disagree with me on that

2018-10-10 07:01:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

you do and thats how my friend learned it the hard way

2018-10-10 07:01:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

basically how i learned english

2018-10-10 07:01:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

by annoying the shit out of english speaking people by constantly asking what words meant

2018-10-10 07:03:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

We got 3 recognized languages here

2018-10-10 07:03:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but the city i live in has more nationalities in it then New york

2018-10-10 07:03:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yeah i know

2018-10-10 07:03:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its not the same here

2018-10-10 07:05:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 07:05:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I speak 5 atm

2018-10-10 07:05:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but they only expect you to speak 2 properly

2018-10-10 07:06:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But here is another example i always give to people

2018-10-10 07:06:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

back in the 90s we had a large movement of eastern europeans coming in due to the whole balkan conflict

2018-10-10 07:10:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I dont recall anyone calling anyone racist for pointing out these people were disproportionally committing a huge amount of crime.
Hell even the police chief here was quoted saying "at least theyre so nice to solve their own problems" as a reference to all the murdering going on.
But everyone was sick of it.

We got the same thing today only on a much larger scale in terms of people coming in.
But now the reply is that when you point out how theyre disproportionally represented in the crime stats & jail population, you are called a racist and thats the end of the debate.
Theres just no looking into what is causing these problems, cops get told to stand down due to fear of things escalating whenever theres a confrontation and so on

2018-10-10 07:11:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The latter has a caveat tho*

2018-10-10 07:11:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Depends on what city and who it is ran by

2018-10-10 07:12:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Prolly the best one is a city south of me which is a liberal

2018-10-10 07:12:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

he seems to have found a good recipe for dealing with these issues

2018-10-10 07:13:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it just depends on how big the cultural difference is and the language barrier i think

2018-10-10 07:14:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and quantity vs period of time

2018-10-10 07:15:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yea i been there once

2018-10-10 07:15:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 07:16:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but barely anyone ever pays attention to whats going on in belgium anyways

2018-10-10 07:16:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

were a poststamp on the map

2018-10-10 07:18:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yea i dont think thats limited to people from asia πŸ˜„

2018-10-10 07:21:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont know, apparently they do and know more of the combined history then people think

2018-10-10 07:22:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

at least they understand that they cant expect the current generation to "fix the past" i cant do anything to fix that. But i can say that i never thought about anything regarding race untill recently when people started to non stop talk about it.

2018-10-10 07:23:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Some think we should but you always gonna have those people regardless

2018-10-10 07:23:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it is fair to say tho that schools should do more teaching about our history with congo

2018-10-10 07:24:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

because i learned very little of that in school

2018-10-10 07:24:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but in a factual way not in the "you are bad because history" way

2018-10-10 07:26:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thats what history does but the current mentality seems to think that history needs to be rewritten

2018-10-10 07:27:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats another thing

2018-10-10 07:28:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Today we think of things that were held dear and were normal 50 years or so ago as reprehensible

2018-10-10 07:28:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But what people always do, and i dont think that will ever go away, is to think that NOW we reached the end point.

2018-10-10 07:29:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ofc not

2018-10-10 07:29:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but you even see that with scientific progress

2018-10-10 07:29:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

steam engine comes along

2018-10-10 07:29:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

universe works like this! we finally know!

2018-10-10 07:29:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

20 years later

2018-10-10 07:29:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

holy crap we were totally wrong!

2018-10-10 07:30:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not arguing relativism or anything

2018-10-10 07:31:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

My point is, theres only a handfull of people of each generation that manage to be truly special.

2018-10-10 07:32:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And everyone else can only do their best with what their environment at the time considers to be "normal" i guess

2018-10-10 07:32:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

idk how to put it any other way

2018-10-10 07:32:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well yeah thats probably true but i dont expect to be around when tht happens πŸ˜ƒ

2018-10-10 07:37:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not sure

2018-10-10 07:37:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ive seen a lot of stupid things

2018-10-10 07:38:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well if you want to go really dry and dark on him

2018-10-10 07:38:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

tell him he solved that problem by destroying the demand

2018-10-10 07:38:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I never watched the movie so maybe this doesnt make any sense

2018-10-10 07:41:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont watch marvel movies so i have no idea what this is about xD

2018-10-10 07:43:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

dont quite get how this ties in with libertarians tho

2018-10-10 07:52:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i do

2018-10-10 07:53:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but i guess thats because half my family died in those camps

2018-10-10 07:56:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont really care about holocaust deniers

2018-10-10 07:56:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yes and its stupid

2018-10-10 07:57:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

idk all i know is that the last time i dug into that topic

2018-10-10 07:57:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i learned a lot of new things

2018-10-10 07:57:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

by having to think about my arguments

2018-10-10 07:57:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and data

2018-10-10 07:57:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-10 07:59:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

u know whats ironic

2018-10-10 08:00:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

that belgium, with its endless stream of pointless bureaucracy and nanny-state approach to everything + being the center of the EU

2018-10-10 08:00:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

is actually one of the better places in europe when it comes to free speech lol

2018-10-10 08:00:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

talking EU levels ofc

2018-10-10 08:02:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats possible, im not very aware of the french

2018-10-10 08:02:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

poland i have no clue

2018-10-10 08:03:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont think they go along with that whole concept

2018-10-10 08:03:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

given a lot of people there still remember how it was under communism

2018-10-10 08:05:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its possible

2018-10-10 08:07:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I think one of my actual friends

2018-10-10 08:07:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

made one of the silliest comments about why the EU as it is, is a good idea

2018-10-10 08:07:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"It will prevent war"

2018-10-10 08:08:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

because when all these countries are united, they wont have a reason to fight eachother

2018-10-10 08:09:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

balkan war never happened

2018-10-10 08:11:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

again ideas like communism are against human nature and biology itself

2018-10-10 08:11:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

for the simple fact that no human is born the same

2018-10-10 08:11:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

everyone is unique

2018-10-10 08:16:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I dont think thats gonna help much

2018-10-10 08:16:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I would be a hypocrit for demanding action against people calling for communism

2018-10-10 08:19:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

most people here are disengaged from politics

2018-10-10 08:19:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

if i had to go off what people say about politics in my day to day life and job

2018-10-10 08:19:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it would be this:

2018-10-10 08:19:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"whatever i vote for, they just keep doing whatever the hell they want"

2018-10-10 08:20:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not saying thats everyone

2018-10-10 08:20:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but thats what i generally hear

2018-10-10 08:20:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and im from belgium so thats "here"

2018-10-10 08:21:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and these are people from across the board

2018-10-10 08:22:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

they talk about it sure, but actual engagement? not so much

2018-10-10 08:24:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

eh i wouldnt put too much weight to that

2018-10-10 08:24:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

u have to understand

2018-10-10 08:24:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

pretty much the entire world has set foot in this country at one point or another

2018-10-10 08:24:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its a bit of a running joke really

2018-10-10 08:26:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

sure but the thing people tend to refer to is the ghetto areas

2018-10-10 08:26:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its very politically incorrect these days

2018-10-10 08:27:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but even a widely respected criminal expert here talked about this only 3-4 years ago

2018-10-10 08:27:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

how legal economy left those places due to crime and filth neighbourhood

2018-10-10 08:27:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and was replaced by illegal economy

2018-10-10 08:28:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and those are all areas where these people are concentrated

2018-10-10 08:28:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

again, we had the exact same problem with the eastern europeans

2018-10-10 08:28:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

this is not new

2018-10-10 08:28:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

high crimes, high level illegal stuff

2018-10-10 08:29:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

fuck if i know, because people have really short memory?

2018-10-10 08:30:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

mm i think thats the wrong question to ask

2018-10-10 08:30:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So do i

2018-10-10 08:30:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i got muslim family

2018-10-10 08:31:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well that is the question

2018-10-10 08:31:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its not about ethnicity

2018-10-10 08:31:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

no theyre not, but most do send them to secular schools here

2018-10-10 08:32:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont even think there is an islamic school in this country

2018-10-10 08:32:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but im not sure

2018-10-10 08:32:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i vaguely recall that being shot down by liberal politicians as being totally wrong

2018-10-10 08:33:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not blind for the problems

2018-10-10 08:34:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i mean i live with them lol

2018-10-10 08:44:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

have u seen how many uniforms have been based of nazi uniforms in pop-culture

2018-10-10 08:44:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and not in a negative way per say

2018-10-10 09:54:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thats funny, something totally unrelated tho

2018-10-10 09:55:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

watching this whole thing about ubisoft

2018-10-10 09:55:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Its funny how they refer to riot games

2018-10-10 09:55:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The company that literally made me politically engaged

2018-10-10 09:59:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im offended

2018-10-10 10:01:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ofc they did

2018-10-10 10:01:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its not like they got anything better to do

2018-10-10 10:05:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats not the problem

2018-10-10 10:05:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

the problem is that their own minds offend them

2018-10-10 10:05:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

since all of this is a construction in their own heads

2018-10-10 10:06:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

doesnt it then?

2018-10-10 10:07:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Doesnt it trigger a physical response to active the hands to go on twitter to complain about something you just imagined in your head about something that its not?

2018-10-10 10:07:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

did i type that right? im getitng tired lol

2018-10-10 10:16:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ah another grim dawn player

2018-10-10 18:10:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats because nobody listens to CNN anymore when it comes to this

2018-10-10 18:12:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thats totally possible, they probably work more or less independent

2018-10-10 18:27:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats the problem in most of western EU countries

2018-10-10 18:28:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

not the solution

2018-10-10 18:28:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

people putting way to much trust in government

2018-10-10 18:30:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats interesting

2018-10-10 18:30:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

they gonna have to do that over here as well i think

2018-10-10 18:31:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i mean just imagine being 50+ and suddenly getting told that this pension you worked all your life for, paying huge amounts of taxes for.
Well you gonna get less now AND you gonna have to work longer as well!
Were very sorry πŸ˜ƒ

2018-10-10 18:32:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

that is what happened here btw

2018-10-10 18:32:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its not a hypothetical

2018-10-10 18:32:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ah so ur one of the smart guys πŸ˜›

2018-10-10 18:34:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well thats true pensions arent very high here either

2018-10-10 18:34:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

the more rightwing parties here keep bitching about unemployment payouts

2018-10-10 18:34:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and how they need to cut on those

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