I am 100% going to back you up. Let's fucking do it.

Female guards in male prisons.

But let us also dispense with this double speak and the all the pretense.

I am for a feminism that would be brutally equal

And we can start with shared parenting, which so-called "feminist" organizations out for equality have been opposing for decades.

You are? Awesome!

>no more segregation in sports
>equality means we ignore dimorphism
Wew

We will go down in a blazing ball of fire, but the way it's going we will either way. Might as well make it fun.

Thats why earlier I was talking about women conscription

@Beemann This is exactly the kind of double speak I am talking about.

Either men and women are equal or they are not.

Conscription is fine, because you don't have to be GI

If they are dimorphic, then we cannot assume equality of outcome.

You can be equal under the law

If we cannot assume equality of outcome, then exact gender parity is nonsense.

You cannot have it both ways.

If you're talking about biological denialism they're actually not that inconsistent

You can have equal sentencing laws, contracts and so forth, but if you acknowledge dimorphism, then you also have to do away with gendered quotas, whose premise it is to achieve equal outcome.

You cannot have it both ways.

If you just want equal outcomes then whatever gets those outcomes is good

Gendered and racial quotas dont even work toward their intentions

So if you have unisex sports teams and men are winning too much something has to change

So you acknowledge dimorphism AND you want equal outcome?

Do you not see the problem with that?

No, they'll blame socialization

The desire to have equal outcome for fairness is predicated on the idea that we are equal in ability and that therefor unequal outcome is indication for discrimination.

If you are trying to make both cases, the entire thing falls apart.

Right but the people who deny dimorphism are assuming it's discrimination

Yes, which also makes the entire premise of feminism a joke.

That's like saying conspiracy theorists make questioning narratives a joke

Corner stones like Patriarchy Theory immediately fall apart.

I am not quite sure what you are on about.

Not all feminists buy into dimorphism being a myth. There are multiple schisms within the multiple movements

That's a bit too hyperbolic for me.

That's your problem.

If you want feminism to stand for a host of contradictory theories with nothing in common. then I don't know how to talk about this amorophous cloud of bullshit.

How do you identify politically?

I don't care.

I will not bring that into this conversation.

We are already far enough adrift.

This is to illustrate a point