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Back to talking about holidays, we do have amistace day to remember WWI and II
This was absolutley hilarious to watch what people were typing without realising you were doing a quiz
He's your source code
Alan Turing
Alan Turing isn't alive anymore
Proof would be that he was arrested for it when it was a crime, plead guilty, and underwent hormone treatment as part of his plea
Plus why target Obama?
I meant if it wasnt a conspiracy
@Atkins Well sometimes it can be pink, or orange
They would be rightfully angry at the politicians
Arguably, it depends on which gen of synth it is
NPC's are more akin to early gen synths
Simple programming
Hopefully in a couple generations the NPSynths will have more capabilities for self awareness
Surely theres a possibility it could be someone who usually votes Democrat, hates Trump, and hates the ugliness that the Dems have revealed within their ranks
@Timcast It would be interesting to know if that's on a broad range of issues instead of simply Law & Order which you would expect
Maybe they were sending Galaxy Note 7's as a Halloween present, not knowing which ones were a trick and which ones were a treat
@Murbay Thats not what Brexit was about
@Timcast That study isnt talking about political terror though, so I wouldn't say all terror exactly pushes conservatism
@Timcast If anything, I think these things show that when x group is causing violence to occur, people align the y group who condemns x group. If conservative violence, riots and terrorism were a thing I doubt that people would become conservative because of it
One thing I dont understand about if there is an uproar about these particular 'Bomb threats' is that isnt finding suspicious packages and possible assassination attempts of presidents, past or potential, just a thing that has happened consistently anyway?
When history is forgotten, it makes it easier to be rewritten
Dont forget Stretch Armstrong
Lance armstrong was the cyclist
Watched an interesting video on minimum wage in New York car washes causing businesses to close and people lose their jobs
Thats it yeah
Yeah because they couldnt afford the labour
Heres the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fsVI3EmUnQ
One question, do you think the same would apply to restaurants if they had to pay a wage rahter than relying on pay from tips?
I think a few people might be confused as to what the beef is here snce he's saying the same thing as you
Dude, he wasnt saying you were normalising it
He was just saying he thinks it shouldnt be seen as normal
Well, rather than normal, should we use commonplace
Something can be commonplace, but not normal
Exactly, it s commonplace, but even though it is commonplace it is not normal
I would argue that no crime is normal
And that crime is the antithesis of normality in a societal setting
To me, the word normal has ethical connections rather than being strictly frequency
Normal is a very subjective word, since what is normal to one person can be not normal to another
I still hold that these mysterious packages were Note 7's
I suppose even if theyre common for the secret service, they probably arent as common for those not protected by the secret service
I dont know, but as a Brit, I know that over the years I've heard lots of occasions as to when things have been caught before getting to the intended target and it's always just treated as "Yeah, we're just doing what we do"
Again, Note 7's, dont know if theyre a trick or a treat
And are Hilary Clinton and some of the other people targeted under secret service protection?
Xraying that many things could be telling
But then airports do that routinely
Again, my main question is whether the people targeted are even under the protection of the sercet service
Because that could be an indicator of why it's bigger news than usual
If the secret service are dealing with it all the time, and something doesnt go through them, then its a higher likelyhood of something not being caught
But are the people targeted under SS protection?
Ok
Then I would tend to agree that it's a possible case of selective reporting ๐
Yeah, I'm ignorant on who some of the targets were because I'm from the UK
I figured Obama was protected being an ex-president
Organised atheists discussing their reasoning does not mean all atheists are organised and behave the way youre saying
That is an opinion, not a statement of fact
I would say an atheist is someone who does not think that there is an existence of a God or Divine
They were probably the originals then, before CIA and FBI and the like
I would argue that a more controversial standpoint would be to be atheist but also reject the concept of evolution as fact
Many christians that I have interacted with automatically assume your atheism means you are an evolutionist
Why does it have to be God?
Can existence not just be existence?
In your opinion
That is the general Christian worldview
Those things could never have existed logically
Complete totality could never have been seperate in order to come into contact with absolute nothingness
Because the existence of something automatically destroys the existence of nothingness
But if there IS something, there is no absolute nothingness either
What is a dark hole?
Black holes are huge amounts of mass
Theyre so massive that they have a pull on photons
So they can't be seen
Interesting thought, but the universe shows an ability to expand and contract, whereas black holes can only gain mass
Or at least, it is theorised that way, the problem with many things this big is the amount of belief and assumptions that you have to make
A black hole is mass though and the universe has plenty of space where thre is no mass
The original statment about atheism being a religion is incorrect, because while there may be organised atheists that believe a particular set of things, there are also atheists that are not organised and do not believe a specific set of things
But all are based on the same core tenets
Atheism is not
Incorrect
It isnt about refuting religion, there may be some who make it a point to talk about atheism as an opposite to religion but as I said earlier, atheism is more about the simple premice that there is no god
In that respect yes I would have to agree, although it is impossilbe for there to be a way of thinking that contains no tenets
Religion is more than a tenet or set of tenets though, it is a system of belief that sometimes includes ritual or tradition
If you really want to stretch the definition of religion, just state that the scientific method and the scientific community are those aspects
But the thing is, that you can do that for anything
Religion is more than that though
When we use the word religion it is in reference to a supernatural being to be worshipped
Atheism rejects a supernatural god to be worshipped
and even the existence of one
If we can agree that the only thing seperating religion from any other way of thinking, that involves ritual and tradition, is the supernatural entity, then what you are saying is that it is inherent that all should need to be fulfilled by a supernatural entity
I would ttend to agree that the uniqueness of the human consciousness is a phenomenon that could lead to that conclusion, but it is also impossible for us to know whether there is or is not consciousness within any other living being in the universe
There does not require there to be a god for any of those things to be true though
All things can be explained by the supernatural
That is the point of the supernatural
Only until enough has been done to qunatify it
that is why science is always expanding
Psychology does not necessarily aim to quantify the consciousness though, arguably neuroscience does more in that regard
But the actual science behing what cuses our conscience will not be discovered by psychology. Psychology is the study of what a conscience contains,not what it is or how it came to be
Through the supernatural
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