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And feminism has no monopoly over the narrative
That's why mrm is here
If they are Antagonistic, we can do nothing with them
They must first remove all the sexist laws they have made
Mrm hadn't made any such laws
And they need to get off their moral high horse that they are for equality and done anything worthwhile for it.
They'll all talk about how they are teaching men to cry.
@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS coming back to patriarchy theory.
The system cannot be called patriarchy it doesn't always caters to men at the cost of women.
It's a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy
The feminist lie is that
1)patriarchy as a system caters to men at the cost of women
2)denying or minimizing the power of women, or the matriarchal power.
Let me ask you... In which parallel universe where the 'oppressed' class have a longer life expectancy than the oppressor class.
And the oppressed class use 80% of the total money of the world.
The system ceases to be a patriarchy then
The system is a mix of male and female power
Because the system is not a binary of female powerlessness and male power.
The feminists are the ones who deny or minimize female power in that system.
If the system is called a patriarchy, then it can be called a matriarchy too.
Actually the system is a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy.
The female is not the oppressed class either, in many respects
How do you quantify oppression
And power
I'll give you statistics of male powerlessness and oppression too
That's why I said, calling the system patriarchy is disingenuous
Women do have power, and the patriarchal power doesn't cater to men
And also power to men had come at cost higher than that of women
So, it's not a system created for oppression
Of women
I will quote the wiki and you'll see what feminist formulations of patriarchy are
Feminist theorists have written extensively about patriarchy either as a primary cause of women's oppression, or as part of an interactive system. Shulamith Firestone, a radical-libertarian feminist, defines patriarchy as a system of oppression of women. Firestone believes that patriarchy is caused by the biological inequalities between women and men, e.g. that women bear children, while men do not. Firestone writes that patriarchal ideologies support the oppression of women and gives as an example the joy of giving birth, which she labels a patriarchal myth. For Firestone, women must gain control over reproduction in order to be free from oppression.[23] Feminist historian Gerda Lerner believes that male control over women's sexuality and reproductive functions is a fundamental cause and result of patriarchy.[27] Alison Jaggar also understands patriarchy as the primary cause of women's oppression. The system of patriarchy accomplishes this by alienating women from their bodies
Interactive systems theoristsย Iris Marion Youngย andย Heidi Hartmannย believe that patriarchy and capitalism interact together to oppress women.
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Audre Lorde, an African American feminist writer and theorist, believed that racism and patriarchy were intertwined systems of oppression.[51]
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Gerda Lerner, in her 1986 The Creation of Patriarchy, makes a series of arguments about the origins and reproduction of patriarchy as a system of oppression of women, and concludes that patriarchy is socially constructed and seen as natural and invisible.[27]
@pc, feminists think otherwise
They are feminists
And some of the most prominent ones
Quoted in Wikipedia
I'm telling you what they think of patriatchy
Jaggar, Young, and Hartmann are among the feminist theorists who argue that the system of patriarchy should be completely overturned, especially the heteropatriarchal family, which they see as a necessary component of female oppression.
We do care.. That's why we don't work with feminists
Almost all feminists qualifies patriarchy to the structure of female oppression by men.
Are you denying that
Those feminist beliefs are an even greater oversimplification
That's why he's no longer a feminist huh
What do I need to think of him
Come on, say what you may
Yes
And He hadn't made women the oppressor class as does feminists
And formulated the 'matriarchy theory'
And feminists believe it is
@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS was set out to limit patriarchy theory to just the rule of men and to remove the patriarchy is the cause of female oppression part
As opposed to almost every feminist thinker
Hence There's a difference between what feminists claim to do and what actually they do
I know, as Warren Farrel and Erin pizzey did
Pizzey being hostile since feminists denied that men can be victims of domestic violence.
And 90% percent of men who were working class got the voting rights, jst 10 years before... In the UK.
And that too by agreeing to get shafted for the war
Women didn't had any such conditions for being allowed the vote
My dude oppression is not limited to women
Back then too.. There had been no molopoly of oppression by women
Not even close
You're essentially female exceptionalism @PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS
@Men Are Human i agree with @goodmod on it
The logo we have is simpler and on point
I agree with @InsaneCaterpilla that the female symbol is unnecessary.
I'm really not in favor of memes channel being littered like this
Earlier, posted memes were on point
Related to mrm
It was
Would this channel better serve as a repository for memes related to mrm?
@Uberduperdrew are you an adolescent guy
If yes, it's fairly common
I had it when I was 15. It's the hormones
Inhad
I had
I'll send it
What are the problems which are currently affecting men?
Male Genital Mutilation being legal worldwide.
98% of Workplace Deaths are men
97% of combat deaths are men
76% of all murder victims are men
Fear of being labeled as pedophiles every time near children.
Less Life Expectancy: Men having 5 years less expectancy than women.
Incarceration rate: Men get 60% harsher sentences than women for the same crime and same criminal background.
Male homelessness: Men being 75% of the homeless and 90% of the roofless.
Men account 80% of the suicides.
Alimony Reform
Default Equal Child custody
Boys failing in education.
Males college education is falling. Men are 40% of the graduates now and is falling.
Prostate Cancer Funding is too low.
The Military drafting of only men.
Lack of reproductive rights.
Paternity testing illegal in many countries.
Forced to support somebody else's child.
World doing nothing to combat male child labor.
Male Human trafficking not given importance even though most of the trafficked are boys and men.
Men cannot be raped according to the government.
Men allowed to retire at a later age than women even when they have lower life expectancy.
Male victims of domestic violence getting arrested due to sexist law called Duluth's model which states that men are the primary aggressor and women only use violence in self defense.
Men getting their whole career destroyed due to an allegation.
*More prodigies, more idiots: Steven Pinker argues why it's reasonable to expect male overrepresentation in STEM fields even in a world with no prejudice*
It's an sjw sub. Theres no point
Isnt it better to use it for the egalitarianism logo.
We don't want people accusing us of 'appropriation'
A Men's movement just need to keep the male logo.
This one is a little over the top, like we are overcompensating by including the female symbol.
@dwazou bit confused. Who wants to ban it?
I get it
Yeah. It's The same case in most countries
Domestic Violence laws are gendered in most countries
It's full of feminist misinformation
Hi
Nice to see we are getting new members still from the sub
How's your day going @Golther
Alright @Golther, if you may, are there any specific mrm issues that is important for you.
Most people here come here since we can't increasingly speak freely irl
Yeah, one thing being the sentences that pedophile women especially teachers get is rage inducing
Guys, everyone must see this.
If you could, upvote this.. This is the the most uplifting comment for a fucking long time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EverythingScience/comments/aevejd/-/edtl7gx
Send me the link
Yeah, it got to do with the subscriber count and the volume of posts
I mean they were default subs
Look at this thread... the tides are changing, guys.
We need to reply to it
@Men Are Human the top comment is sarcastic and is taking a dig at feminists
Yeah, I had that problem now too
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