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2019-01-03 06:31:34 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And feminism has no monopoly over the narrative

2019-01-03 06:31:41 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

That's why mrm is here

2019-01-03 06:32:25 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

If they are Antagonistic, we can do nothing with them

2019-01-03 06:32:58 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

They must first remove all the sexist laws they have made

2019-01-03 06:33:14 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Mrm hadn't made any such laws

2019-01-03 06:35:38 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And they need to get off their moral high horse that they are for equality and done anything worthwhile for it.

2019-01-03 06:37:19 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

They'll all talk about how they are teaching men to cry.

2019-01-03 06:48:21 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS coming back to patriarchy theory.

The system cannot be called patriarchy it doesn't always caters to men at the cost of women.

2019-01-03 06:49:14 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

It's a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy

2019-01-03 06:50:55 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

The feminist lie is that
1)patriarchy as a system caters to men at the cost of women
2)denying or minimizing the power of women, or the matriarchal power.

2019-01-03 06:53:55 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Let me ask you... In which parallel universe where the 'oppressed' class have a longer life expectancy than the oppressor class.

And the oppressed class use 80% of the total money of the world.

2019-01-03 06:58:59 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

The system ceases to be a patriarchy then

2019-01-03 06:59:24 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

The system is a mix of male and female power

2019-01-03 07:04:41 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Because the system is not a binary of female powerlessness and male power.
The feminists are the ones who deny or minimize female power in that system.
If the system is called a patriarchy, then it can be called a matriarchy too.

Actually the system is a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy.

2019-01-03 07:05:16 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

The female is not the oppressed class either, in many respects

2019-01-03 07:08:53 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

How do you quantify oppression

2019-01-03 07:09:08 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And power

2019-01-03 07:09:37 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

I'll give you statistics of male powerlessness and oppression too

2019-01-03 07:10:28 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

That's why I said, calling the system patriarchy is disingenuous

2019-01-03 07:11:34 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Women do have power, and the patriarchal power doesn't cater to men

2019-01-03 07:12:47 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And also power to men had come at cost higher than that of women

2019-01-03 07:13:28 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

So, it's not a system created for oppression

2019-01-03 07:13:32 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Of women

2019-01-03 07:13:57 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

I will quote the wiki and you'll see what feminist formulations of patriarchy are

2019-01-03 07:14:46 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Feminist theorists have written extensively about patriarchy either as a primary cause of women's oppression, or as part of an interactive system. Shulamith Firestone, a radical-libertarian feminist, defines patriarchy as a system of oppression of women. Firestone believes that patriarchy is caused by the biological inequalities between women and men, e.g. that women bear children, while men do not. Firestone writes that patriarchal ideologies support the oppression of women and gives as an example the joy of giving birth, which she labels a patriarchal myth. For Firestone, women must gain control over reproduction in order to be free from oppression.[23] Feminist historian Gerda Lerner believes that male control over women's sexuality and reproductive functions is a fundamental cause and result of patriarchy.[27] Alison Jaggar also understands patriarchy as the primary cause of women's oppression. The system of patriarchy accomplishes this by alienating women from their bodies

Interactive systems theoristsย Iris Marion Youngย andย Heidi Hartmannย believe that patriarchy and capitalism interact together to oppress women.

2019-01-03 07:15:11 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

**
Audre Lorde, an African American feminist writer and theorist, believed that racism and patriarchy were intertwined systems of oppression.[51]

2019-01-03 07:15:41 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

**
Gerda Lerner, in her 1986 The Creation of Patriarchy, makes a series of arguments about the origins and reproduction of patriarchy as a system of oppression of women, and concludes that patriarchy is socially constructed and seen as natural and invisible.[27]

2019-01-03 07:16:44 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

@pc, feminists think otherwise

2019-01-03 07:17:11 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

They are feminists

2019-01-03 07:17:23 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And some of the most prominent ones

2019-01-03 07:17:29 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Quoted in Wikipedia

2019-01-03 07:18:00 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

I'm telling you what they think of patriatchy

2019-01-03 07:18:33 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Jaggar, Young, and Hartmann are among the feminist theorists who argue that the system of patriarchy should be completely overturned, especially the heteropatriarchal family, which they see as a necessary component of female oppression.

2019-01-03 07:19:56 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

We do care.. That's why we don't work with feminists

2019-01-03 07:21:46 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Almost all feminists qualifies patriarchy to the structure of female oppression by men.

2019-01-03 07:22:09 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Are you denying that

2019-01-03 07:22:43 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Those feminist beliefs are an even greater oversimplification

2019-01-03 07:23:37 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

That's why he's no longer a feminist huh

2019-01-03 07:25:34 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

What do I need to think of him

2019-01-03 07:27:36 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Come on, say what you may

2019-01-03 07:29:10 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Yes

2019-01-03 07:29:47 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And He hadn't made women the oppressor class as does feminists

2019-01-03 07:30:38 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And formulated the 'matriarchy theory'

2019-01-03 07:34:13 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

And feminists believe it is

2019-01-03 07:41:10 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS was set out to limit patriarchy theory to just the rule of men and to remove the patriarchy is the cause of female oppression part

2019-01-03 07:41:37 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

As opposed to almost every feminist thinker

2019-01-03 07:43:19 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Hence There's a difference between what feminists claim to do and what actually they do

2019-01-03 07:52:35 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

I know, as Warren Farrel and Erin pizzey did

2019-01-03 07:54:31 UTC [Men's Human Rights #debate]  

Pizzey being hostile since feminists denied that men can be victims of domestic violence.

2019-01-03 08:04:56 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

And 90% percent of men who were working class got the voting rights, jst 10 years before... In the UK.

And that too by agreeing to get shafted for the war

2019-01-03 08:05:56 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Women didn't had any such conditions for being allowed the vote

2019-01-03 08:11:08 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

My dude oppression is not limited to women

2019-01-03 08:12:28 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Back then too.. There had been no molopoly of oppression by women

2019-01-03 08:13:32 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Not even close

2019-01-03 08:14:06 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

You're essentially female exceptionalism @PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS

2019-01-04 09:36:04 UTC [Men's Human Rights #men-are-human]  

@Men Are Human i agree with @goodmod on it

2019-01-04 09:36:27 UTC [Men's Human Rights #men-are-human]  

The logo we have is simpler and on point

2019-01-04 09:38:10 UTC [Men's Human Rights #men-are-human]  

I agree with @InsaneCaterpilla that the female symbol is unnecessary.

2019-01-04 22:09:40 UTC [Men's Human Rights #memes]  

I'm really not in favor of memes channel being littered like this

2019-01-04 22:10:02 UTC [Men's Human Rights #memes]  

Earlier, posted memes were on point

2019-01-04 22:10:42 UTC [Men's Human Rights #memes]  

Related to mrm

2019-01-04 22:11:24 UTC [Men's Human Rights #memes]  

It was

2019-01-04 22:13:07 UTC [Men's Human Rights #memes]  

Would this channel better serve as a repository for memes related to mrm?

2019-01-05 12:35:50 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

@Uberduperdrew are you an adolescent guy

2019-01-05 12:36:02 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

If yes, it's fairly common

2019-01-05 12:37:15 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

I had it when I was 15. It's the hormones

2019-01-05 13:27:06 UTC [Men's Human Rights #activism]  

Inhad

2019-01-05 13:27:09 UTC [Men's Human Rights #activism]  

I had

2019-01-05 13:27:15 UTC [Men's Human Rights #activism]  

I'll send it

2019-01-05 13:32:38 UTC [Men's Human Rights #activism]  

What are the problems which are currently affecting men?
Male Genital Mutilation being legal worldwide.
98% of Workplace Deaths are men
97% of combat deaths are men
76% of all murder victims are men
Fear of being labeled as pedophiles every time near children.
Less Life Expectancy: Men having 5 years less expectancy than women.
Incarceration rate: Men get 60% harsher sentences than women for the same crime and same criminal background.
Male homelessness: Men being 75% of the homeless and 90% of the roofless.
Men account 80% of the suicides.
Alimony Reform
Default Equal Child custody
Boys failing in education.
Males college education is falling. Men are 40% of the graduates now and is falling.
Prostate Cancer Funding is too low.
The Military drafting of only men.
Lack of reproductive rights.
Paternity testing illegal in many countries.
Forced to support somebody else's child.
World doing nothing to combat male child labor.
Male Human trafficking not given importance even though most of the trafficked are boys and men.
Men cannot be raped according to the government.
Men allowed to retire at a later age than women even when they have lower life expectancy.
Male victims of domestic violence getting arrested due to sexist law called Duluth's model which states that men are the primary aggressor and women only use violence in self defense.
Men getting their whole career destroyed due to an allegation.

2019-01-05 15:27:59 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

*More prodigies, more idiots: Steven Pinker argues why it's reasonable to expect male overrepresentation in STEM fields even in a world with no prejudice*

2019-01-07 11:09:53 UTC [Men's Human Rights #activism]  

It's an sjw sub. Theres no point

2019-01-07 14:01:03 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Isnt it better to use it for the egalitarianism logo.

2019-01-07 14:03:16 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

We don't want people accusing us of 'appropriation'

2019-01-07 14:05:43 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

A Men's movement just need to keep the male logo.

This one is a little over the top, like we are overcompensating by including the female symbol.

2019-01-09 21:53:59 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

@dwazou bit confused. Who wants to ban it?

2019-01-09 21:54:40 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

I get it

2019-01-09 21:55:48 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Yeah. It's The same case in most countries

2019-01-09 21:56:30 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Domestic Violence laws are gendered in most countries

2019-01-11 14:44:25 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

It's full of feminist misinformation

2019-01-11 18:31:44 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Hi

2019-01-11 18:37:55 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Nice to see we are getting new members still from the sub

2019-01-11 18:38:36 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

How's your day going @Golther

2019-01-11 18:49:29 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Alright @Golther, if you may, are there any specific mrm issues that is important for you.

2019-01-11 18:51:52 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Most people here come here since we can't increasingly speak freely irl

2019-01-11 18:54:33 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Yeah, one thing being the sentences that pedophile women especially teachers get is rage inducing

2019-01-12 07:04:15 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Guys, everyone must see this.

If you could, upvote this.. This is the the most uplifting comment for a fucking long time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EverythingScience/comments/aevejd/-/edtl7gx

2019-01-12 13:59:44 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Send me the link

2019-01-12 15:10:12 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

Yeah, it got to do with the subscriber count and the volume of posts

2019-01-12 15:10:31 UTC [Men's Human Rights #general]  

I mean they were default subs

2019-01-12 15:20:14 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Look at this thread... the tides are changing, guys.

2019-01-12 15:44:42 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

We need to reply to it

2019-01-12 16:39:19 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

@Men Are Human the top comment is sarcastic and is taking a dig at feminists

2019-01-12 19:44:36 UTC [Men's Human Rights #lounge]  

Yeah, I had that problem now too

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