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Is that the menslib way or the chapo way

chapo?

And no, it has nothing to do with any affiliation to any group

Feminism is defined as the 'advocacy for women's rights on the basis of equality'

This in itself assumes that equality will be attained if *women are raised to men*.
The word feminism in itself assumes that men have no problems.

That is the worst interpretation I have ever seen \

it doesn't assume anything like that

Equality will not be attained if you just advocate for women's rights

It's the dictionary definition of feminism

And feminism has no monopoly over the narrative

That's why mrm is here

Feminism started off as working at one issue, and has grown from there.

great, the MRM is here, to work ALONGSIDE feminism

that would be a help

But no, the two movements clash against each other non-stop

If they are Antagonistic, we can do nothing with them

At this point, a feminist has just said the same thing

They must first remove all the sexist laws they have made

Mrm hadn't made any such laws

yet

And they need to get off their moral high horse that they are for equality and done anything worthwhile for it.

They'll all talk about how they are teaching men to cry.

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS coming back to patriarchy theory.

The system cannot be called patriarchy it doesn't always caters to men at the cost of women.

It's a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy

The feminist lie is that
1)patriarchy as a system caters to men at the cost of women
2)denying or minimizing the power of women, or the matriarchal power.

Let me ask you... In which parallel universe where the 'oppressed' class have a longer life expectancy than the oppressor class.

And the oppressed class use 80% of the total money of the world.

Patriarchy is not about catering to men. I have never said that.

Patriarchy hurts men too: Ever heard that little rallying cry>

The system ceases to be a patriarchy then

The system is a mix of male and female power

How does it cease to be a patriarchy?

Because the system is not a binary of female powerlessness and male power.
The feminists are the ones who deny or minimize female power in that system.
If the system is called a patriarchy, then it can be called a matriarchy too.

Actually the system is a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy.

The female is not the oppressed class either, in many respects

Do you know what the word "most" means?

it is not a binary, i tell you that

How do you quantify oppression

And power

Statistics

I'll give you statistics of male powerlessness and oppression too

Save it mate, I have heard it thousands of times

like 3 in 4 homeless being men

and 9 in 10 roofless