Higher power comes with higher cost

So, it's not a system created for oppression

Of women

I will quote the wiki and you'll see what feminist formulations of patriarchy are

no it is not

Feminist theorists have written extensively about patriarchy either as a primary cause of women's oppression, or as part of an interactive system. Shulamith Firestone, a radical-libertarian feminist, defines patriarchy as a system of oppression of women. Firestone believes that patriarchy is caused by the biological inequalities between women and men, e.g. that women bear children, while men do not. Firestone writes that patriarchal ideologies support the oppression of women and gives as an example the joy of giving birth, which she labels a patriarchal myth. For Firestone, women must gain control over reproduction in order to be free from oppression.[23] Feminist historian Gerda Lerner believes that male control over women's sexuality and reproductive functions is a fundamental cause and result of patriarchy.[27] Alison Jaggar also understands patriarchy as the primary cause of women's oppression. The system of patriarchy accomplishes this by alienating women from their bodies

Interactive systems theorists Iris Marion Young and Heidi Hartmann believe that patriarchy and capitalism interact together to oppress women.

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Audre Lorde, an African American feminist writer and theorist, believed that racism and patriarchy were intertwined systems of oppression.[51]

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Gerda Lerner, in her 1986 The Creation of Patriarchy, makes a series of arguments about the origins and reproduction of patriarchy as a system of oppression of women, and concludes that patriarchy is socially constructed and seen as natural and invisible.[27]

@pc, feminists think otherwise

You quoted individuals

They are feminists

So they are

And some of the most prominent ones

funny that

Are they?

Quoted in Wikipedia

Oh, so they are credible then?

If Wikipedia the Wise says so

I'm telling you what they think of patriatchy

And I don't really give a flying fuck now do I

Jaggar, Young, and Hartmann are among the feminist theorists who argue that the system of patriarchy should be completely overturned, especially the heteropatriarchal family, which they see as a necessary component of female oppression.

Good for them

Again, I don't care

We do care.. That's why we don't work with feminists

Yes, because all of feminism worships those specific three people that I think have not been heard of by the majority of feminists

Almost all feminists qualifies patriarchy to the structure of female oppression by men.

Are you denying that

That is a vast oversimplification

Those feminist beliefs are an even greater oversimplification

🙄

Tell me, what do you think of Warren Farrell?

That's why he's no longer a feminist huh

What?

No

Tell me what you think of Warren Farrell

What do I need to think of him

I want to know your opinion about him

Come on, say what you may

“Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape.”.Ignoring that there is a male version of date rape called date rape, which is already misandrist and screwed up, that’s a direct equivalence. It feels nothing, at all, like date rape.

Farrell is the MRA equivalent of most mainstream feminists

Yes