@TheDogOfSinope that would require both sides to have nukes. And both sides dont

All respect, Beemann, if you don't play... you concede in politics.

the current trajectory will see the credibility of both sides ultimately destroyed, if it isn't already

@Beemann This.

If I choose to not play the "accuse everyone of rape" game, how do I lose

"if you dont pick a self defeating option you lose lol"
so how are socialists winning seats

As to mutual destruction, that actually will do more to increase scrutny which will profit the republicans more.

@Beemann @TheDogOfSinope yeah this was a waste of time

seems that way, yes

The result of all this infighting is a general weakening of the host system.

The listen and believe stuff is a serious problem. Cynicism at least gets people to check and not be so gullible.

yes and you win the idpol game by not playing it

^

every time you play into the dumb side games, you increase the efficacy of those games

You came to the debate section of an internet discord server.

they're dependent on wide acceptance

that doesnt give you license to make bad faith arguments

and now you're virtue signaling on how you're above discussion.

who?

@Beemann Wait a minute, I didn't make bad faith arguments.

Let's back up and establish positions.

that is not accurate.

"I will apply your statement to X. I will now declare X is not applicable to TOPIC. Ergo u r wrong lol"

I'd like to also point out, that Beeman has strated to ad hominem me.

Attacking me instead of my argument.

oh for fucks sake

Ironic really

I've explained specifically my criticism, and how I think it is causing the discussion to stagnate

No, you attacked my character.

no, I criticized your behaviour

?

and then explained what I was criticizing

Please go over the problem with my argument with quotes in this discussion.

what character attack?

Look. Democrats raising the bar to better destroy Republicans will result in a general weakening of both positions, fair?

the problem with your argument is you want to argue about the efficacy of a stupid analogy

one which I didn't initially make I should add

but I went along with to be sure

"My only rebuttal is this. The only way to win this game being run by democrats is to not play it"
"That's War Games and nuclear weapons.

Not applicable to politics in a republic."
there's no logical backing here, you just asserted it, and then suggested any reference to it is ridiculous
"Please make a less extreme analogy that more crediably fits this argument.
I personally can't take the argument seriously in this form."

and now you're being an absolute dipshit about it, to be blunt

My initial statement was "dont play the game"