Message from @Farscryer

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2018-10-08 14:25:36 UTC  

what character attack?

2018-10-08 14:25:36 UTC  

Look. Democrats raising the bar to better destroy Republicans will result in a general weakening of both positions, fair?

2018-10-08 14:26:26 UTC  

the problem with your argument is you want to argue about the efficacy of a stupid analogy

2018-10-08 14:26:35 UTC  

one which I didn't initially make I should add

2018-10-08 14:26:41 UTC  

but I went along with to be sure

2018-10-08 14:26:49 UTC  

"My only rebuttal is this. The only way to win this game being run by democrats is to not play it"
"That's War Games and nuclear weapons.

Not applicable to politics in a republic."
there's no logical backing here, you just asserted it, and then suggested any reference to it is ridiculous
"Please make a less extreme analogy that more crediably fits this argument.
I personally can't take the argument seriously in this form."

2018-10-08 14:27:00 UTC  

and now you're being an absolute dipshit about it, to be blunt

2018-10-08 14:27:15 UTC  

My initial statement was "dont play the game"

2018-10-08 14:27:22 UTC  

Oprapsminge, you immediately analogized the discussion to the movie War Games with MAD. You haven't a leg to stand on. I explained it in detail.

2018-10-08 14:27:23 UTC  

you SAID it was to do with nukes and war games

2018-10-08 14:27:28 UTC  

which, by the way, isnt ad hom, because I didnt attack your character *instead* of your argument, I just insulted you in addition

2018-10-08 14:27:31 UTC  

NO I DIDNT

2018-10-08 14:27:38 UTC  

you were the one who brought up muh nukes

2018-10-08 14:27:44 UTC  

and then you used that to discredit his argument

2018-10-08 14:27:45 UTC  

I just decided to use a statement to describe the situation quickly

2018-10-08 14:27:52 UTC  

I quoted you above

2018-10-08 14:28:04 UTC  

well this isn't a debate

2018-10-08 14:28:07 UTC  

@Beemann He accepted the point... Do you want me to cite the bit where he accepted the nuclear weapons analogy as his own?

2018-10-08 14:28:30 UTC  

you want me to point out how him playing along doesnt make your argument good faith?

2018-10-08 14:28:35 UTC  

Sure

2018-10-08 14:28:43 UTC  

Can we get back to the original argument?

2018-10-08 14:28:49 UTC  

it started off not good faith. Him deciding to be charitable does not make it good faith retroactively

2018-10-08 14:28:53 UTC  

Then I'll just pretend to go along with your argument and that won't matter either.

2018-10-08 14:28:53 UTC  

Hard reset please

2018-10-08 14:29:19 UTC  

I also tried to move past the stupid analogy

2018-10-08 14:29:25 UTC  

and explain my reasoning

2018-10-08 14:29:26 UTC  

Any rule you make will be applied to you. If that isn't acceptable, choose your tactics more carefully.

2018-10-08 14:29:30 UTC  

I dont see much point in a hard reset when the trajectory of the discussion is "Let's be passive aggressive and strawman, then say the conversation is ridiculous"

2018-10-08 14:29:46 UTC  

Then its time to be the bigger men/women

2018-10-08 14:29:48 UTC  

You strawmanned me, beemann.

2018-10-08 14:29:49 UTC  

and I would love to hear something about the bulk of what I said

2018-10-08 14:29:51 UTC  

I didn't

2018-10-08 14:29:53 UTC  

You made a character attack.

2018-10-08 14:30:00 UTC  

nope, I attacked behaviour

2018-10-08 14:30:06 UTC  

First foul was yours.

2018-10-08 14:30:08 UTC  

and what's more, ad hom is not merely an attack on character

2018-10-08 14:30:22 UTC  

But attacking a person instead of the argument is an ad hom

2018-10-08 14:30:29 UTC  

right, and I criticized your behaviour

2018-10-08 14:30:36 UTC  

@oprahsminge What was your original point, please?

2018-10-08 14:30:37 UTC  

if you cant distinguish between the two, thats your failing, not mine

2018-10-08 14:31:09 UTC  

Sure... beemann, you know what you did. I'm not convinced. If you have anything to contribute to a discussion then have a discussion. I'm not interested in your sidewise insults.