Message from @Farscryer

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2018-10-08 15:34:58 UTC  

This is a historical tactic of the RNC because they focus primarily on individuals as a rule.

2018-10-08 15:35:20 UTC  

The DNC though fully weaponized it due to social media.

2018-10-08 15:35:38 UTC  

Alex Jones, Milo, and others are prime examples.

2018-10-08 15:35:57 UTC  

yup, but it's the reasons for that tactic being used that are the principled aspect, are they not?

2018-10-08 15:36:06 UTC  

Like if you want to take down a tyrant, you do the same thing

2018-10-08 15:37:19 UTC  

Right. But going back our earlier argument concerning poison vs resistance-building, this rule no longer applies due to technology being its natural, unexpected counter.

2018-10-08 15:37:56 UTC  

well except where it's still been effective

2018-10-08 15:37:59 UTC  

You can try to smear someone and the Streisand effect comes into play, all thanks to the internet and its archival process. And its users too

2018-10-08 15:38:13 UTC  

I think the issue there though is that the social expectation of fair play has been eroded

2018-10-08 15:38:22 UTC  

I would argue by decades of "by any means necessary"

2018-10-08 15:38:40 UTC  

Got it in one

2018-10-08 15:39:31 UTC  

America is unique because "Fuck your shit!!!" has been a facet of our Constitution since the beginning.

2018-10-08 15:40:22 UTC  

We allow a level of argumentation and social buckling in our governance. But the check to that has always been "But hey, we're all Americans, here."

2018-10-08 15:41:18 UTC  

THAT has been eroded because, as I see it, people don't seem to understand what it means to be an American. Or what you can or can not do as an American.

2018-10-08 15:41:42 UTC  

well that's because there's been an effort to erode the various components of American Values

2018-10-08 15:41:59 UTC  

often in service of expediency

2018-10-08 15:42:40 UTC  

it just makes it all the more tragic, as someone who does not live in a country that had those values hard coded into its very foundation

2018-10-08 15:43:02 UTC  

And this is where the RNC revival begins. By accepting the "cheesy" aspect of those ideals and marrying them with a positive future in which those ideals can exist with the rest of the modern world.

2018-10-08 15:43:37 UTC  

I absolutely agree

2018-10-08 15:43:37 UTC  

No one wants the 1950's back. But people should want the pride of being American from that era back.

2018-10-08 15:43:55 UTC  

And in my opinion, the internet can help that.

2018-10-08 15:43:58 UTC  

well and this kinda gets into the philosophical aspect as well

2018-10-08 15:44:23 UTC  

wherein multile social structures have been dismantled in the name of opening up society, without an examination of what those structures *did*

2018-10-08 15:44:53 UTC  

so on top of the political turmoil, there's an underying layer of meaninglessness in the lives of an increasing portion of the the voting public

2018-10-08 15:45:08 UTC  

which then leads to them searching for meaning in other shit, and then potentially radicalizing

2018-10-08 15:45:48 UTC  

Too many people are looking for a brand to wear on their t-shirt than a moral center upon which to grow from.

2018-10-08 15:46:13 UTC  

well or they look for a moral center that just leads to fuckery

2018-10-08 15:46:25 UTC  

see: the rise of socialism and marxism in certain sectors

2018-10-08 15:46:58 UTC  

All of which is parroted 3rd hand instead of being self-actualized, nowadays.

2018-10-08 15:47:05 UTC  

absolutely

2018-10-08 15:47:48 UTC  

Because Americans have been taught to not think overmuch about the long term as opposed to myopic gratification.

2018-10-08 15:47:59 UTC  

but like, we're gradually approaching that limit, where people are just getting blatantly radicalized because their basic, I guess Harris would call it Spiritual Needs, are not met

2018-10-08 15:48:06 UTC  

yeah I think that's a prime contributor

2018-10-08 15:48:44 UTC  

and again, the lessening of social pressures and the demonization of social accountability have fucked that harder

2018-10-08 15:48:54 UTC  

Every man needs something to believe in, be it a god or an ideal.

2018-10-08 15:49:12 UTC  

Problem is that both have become labels on a hat

2018-10-08 15:49:49 UTC  

well I think that's because people are still stuck on "either or"

2018-10-08 15:50:21 UTC  

And not understanding that you can have both. Humans are not binary creatures in the philosophical sense.

2018-10-08 15:50:43 UTC  

You are more than what you look like or what your wear or what you like doing.

2018-10-08 15:51:16 UTC  

The surface-only analysis that people are taught nowadays sucks. Because its not being taught correctly.

2018-10-08 15:52:31 UTC  

You look your best for a job interview because the interviewer doesn't know you personally, nor likely doesn't want to anyway. They're working a job and you want one. But it seems like people are taking that and running with it as a life long philosophy concerning interpersonal communication.