Again, the more frequently they use it, the less well it works.

nuclear weapons don't work that way.

yes and the more frequently you threaten to nuke people the less they think you'll do it

The analogy doesn't work because if they do it... I build up a resistance. I don't build up a resistance to nuking.

and instead of even considering the ACTUAL argument you'll sit here having some silly argument about how nukes work

fine

lets say you replace it with your analogy

Ok, going with the poison analogy, and the build up of resistance... Have you ever considered that there are some poisons powerful enough and fast acting enough as to not allow the build up of said resistance.

now can we talk about the actual argument or no?

No, you're the one making hyperbolic argument suggesting that using effective political tactics = nuclear MAD annhilation.

the difference between business and politics is that a nation must be founded on ideals. Also "the only winning move is not to play" is a perfectly valid statement wrt increased partisanship and idpol taking over the political landscape

@TheDogOfSinope that would require both sides to have nukes. And both sides dont

All respect, Beemann, if you don't play... you concede in politics.

the current trajectory will see the credibility of both sides ultimately destroyed, if it isn't already

@Beemann This.

If I choose to not play the "accuse everyone of rape" game, how do I lose

"if you dont pick a self defeating option you lose lol"
so how are socialists winning seats

As to mutual destruction, that actually will do more to increase scrutny which will profit the republicans more.

@Beemann @TheDogOfSinope yeah this was a waste of time

seems that way, yes

The result of all this infighting is a general weakening of the host system.

The listen and believe stuff is a serious problem. Cynicism at least gets people to check and not be so gullible.

yes and you win the idpol game by not playing it

^

every time you play into the dumb side games, you increase the efficacy of those games

You came to the debate section of an internet discord server.

they're dependent on wide acceptance

that doesnt give you license to make bad faith arguments

and now you're virtue signaling on how you're above discussion.

who?

@Beemann Wait a minute, I didn't make bad faith arguments.

Let's back up and establish positions.

that is not accurate.

"I will apply your statement to X. I will now declare X is not applicable to TOPIC. Ergo u r wrong lol"

I'd like to also point out, that Beeman has strated to ad hominem me.

Attacking me instead of my argument.

oh for fucks sake

Ironic really

I've explained specifically my criticism, and how I think it is causing the discussion to stagnate

No, you attacked my character.

no, I criticized your behaviour