@eugene пока глубокое изучение марксизма не несет массовый характер, к сожалению.

Наверное нужно сделать вики, но это очень трудоемко и без понятного результата.

@eugene легче персонально отвечать на вопросы.

Night chat is best chat.

@Sorghagtani Beki do they exploit each other in that discord?

@Sorghagtani Beki but proletariat needs its dictatorship.

@Sorghagtani Beki they don't believe in proletariat dictatorship?

@Sorghagtani Beki are they enemies of proletariat?

@Sorghagtani Beki if they don't believe in proletarian dictatorship they are enemies of proletariat.

@Donny there are many people here with different views.

@Donny In my opinion state has to be highly centralized and world-wide.

@Donny yes. Socialist World Union https://youtu.be/GPKH4GHiihg

@Donny yes.

@Sorghagtani Beki unofficial leftypol is restricted for libertarians.

@Donny By automating bureaucracy with AI and apps

@Donny Let it happen.

Support it.

@Donny because evolution.

@Donny progress.

@Donny yes. Liberty to AI !!!

Liberty to all forms of intelligence.

hola

@Dirty Red mostly americanski

@Dirty Red Some English

@Dirty Red Tell us about situation in Australia.

@Dirty Red what situation is on the left?

@Dirty Red what are active groups and parties?

Tell us what you know about them.

@Dirty Red join the organization, they will share experience with you.

Organization is better than no organization.

@Dirty Red how does it lead to larger organizations?

What if said people are fucked by the capitalists after the rage? Like in Ukraine.

Like in Egypt.

Like in Lybia

@Dirty Red Not sure. Oligarchy rules Ukraine now openly.

No, when they feel outraged they vote Trump

or Putin

Oligarhs

But they don't.

Without organization they won't.

Without the Party.

Organization directly lead to the class consciousness.

@Dirty Red the communist organization.

@Dirty Red Individual consciousness is not class consciousnesses.

@Dirty Red I'm petite-burger.

@Dirty Red I don't belong to the class.

@Dirty Red How can i develop class consciousness?

@Dirty Red I don't belong to the class.

But I would like to develop a class.

@Dirty Red yes

@Dirty Red nope

It is not a Marxist definition

Class consciousness is the maturity and self-reliance, sovereignty of the class of Proletariat.

It is also an active force of organization.

I'm not in the class and I don't have the consciousness of a proletarian.

But I wish to work for that class. As it is the future.

@Dirty Red I have income from capital.

@Dirty Red nope, Marx and Engels criticized this as useless move and a waste.

@Dirty Red Bolsheviks had undercover business in Russia.

@Dirty Red yes

@Dirty Red Party can sustain any business.

@AngryChekist any.

Nuclear energy, Space Travel.

@eugene мелкобуржуазная психология же. Вместо совместной работы преобладает конкуренция и конфликт.

@eugene можно отнести, а можно и не отнести.

@eugene победы над чем?

@eugene зачем вы интересуетесь конкретно этой темой?

@eugene почему?

@eugene вам не понятно почему кооперация важнее конкуренции?

@eugene но обычные стрелялки часть общего, там может проявлятся кооперация или конкуренция. В данный момент больше конкуренции.

@Trestkie Don't underestimate Chinese. They are everywhere.