Message from @Echo
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Why so?
It is not a Marxist definition
Ah
I use a different definition then
Apologies
I go off this definition: "awareness of one's place in a system of social class, especially (in Marxist terms) as it relates to the class struggle"
Class consciousness is the maturity and self-reliance, sovereignty of the class of Proletariat.
It is also an active force of organization.
Interesting
I'm not in the class and I don't have the consciousness of a proletarian.
But I wish to work for that class. As it is the future.
So what is your relation to the means of production?
@Dirty Red I have income from capital.
sorry m8, this answer confuses me
if you make 50%+ of your income thru capital ownership you're a petit bourgeoisie
in general
Then to help the proles one would have to relinquish control of the capital and give it to the workers and yourself to own as a collective.
Am I right in saying this?
not perse, you could also use the income for agitation or organisation
@Dirty Red nope, Marx and Engels criticized this as useless move and a waste.
So destroy capitalism using capitalism against the capitalists?
@Dirty Red yes
So own a business but use it as a front to fund a communist org?
Interesting tactic
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props the most effective means to accumulate capital
@Dirty Red Party can sustain any business.
What kind of business are we talking about?
@AngryChekist any.
Nuclear energy, Space Travel.
Well, if you run a b2c business you could subvert consumers by spreading well placed propaganda
Depends on what you do ofc
People would argue "A capitalist company having pro-comm propaganda?! Such hypocrisy!"
The best propaganda is the one consumers are not even aware of buddy
i unfortunatly spend 4 years of my life learning marketing
lol
A worker co-op would work no?
co-op's would propably be the best at spreading ideology