that's why i like the idea of liveing on a boat, I would dock with a colony I agree with and when they changed I could just undock and find another.

or better yet, tell the other people to undock.

my dad tells me that Ohio used to hate trucks, but i guess that could change over time.

everywhere needs truckers. trucks are the live blood of our economy more so then any other industry.

ships and trains have their place, but trucks are the thing that makes it all work.

and planes now i guess with all of the small package shipping going on now.

but you always need a truck for the last leg.

few hours?

alright! have a good rest you light weight ;)

(50 miles being a long day, HA i say! HA!)

:P

i'm still lurking around but i'm gonna play some games for a while.

well if everyone was in the same religion i'm sure it would be quite peacefull!
until it splits like all cultures do.

how about one dedicated to "live and let live"?

sure it will! the nutts who want giant laser cannons will make the giant laser cannons!
and the nutts what want the mini laser cannons will make the mini liser cannons!

you make it sound like that is a bad way to go.

in the very long list of ways to kill off an entire world, I think "runaway science experiment" is a fun one.

puting a cat on a leash sounds like a good way to wind up loseing eyes.

glad that i'm not the only one who saw "CA" and though "California"
I figured "they are messed up enough to have a chat all their own".

the areas such crimes happen is also an interesting stat.
aren't the hotspots for them in the cities that are very anti-gun already?

I suck at searching for stuff, so I am unable to find the stats myself.

my understanding is that these crimes are being caused by a particular culture, that culture is held by a particular people.
these crimes are also happening in places where the law-abiding can't have guns or can't use them because of the laws.

or means very little.

and often people attach themselfs to a culture based on their race.

a brick can still kill someone very easiley, If someone chucked a brick at me I would feel right in assumeing they wanted me dead and I would feel justified in responding accordingly.

the guy throwing or the other guy?

hmmm.... still, I would disagree with such an attack.

oh, well in that case it is definitely an attack I would assume means to kill me, reguardless of my size to his.

I would say that a physical attack is something that should only be done as a matter of last resort.

oh, didn't know it was a movie, thought you were talking about a recent event in the news.

ah

personaly I work with an asumption that every rule has an edge case.
there isn't much in the way of obvious color diversity where i live and so I don't have to worry about anything past "basic human assumption"
which normally is enough to start with almost anyone.
i'm sure if i lived in an area where there were clear culture lines I would have a "culture A assumption" and a "culture B assumption" that i would start with when ever I met someone new.

it just so happens that cultures are passed on much like genetics, so culture tends to be mistaken for race.

I never would be

oh

Race is nothing more then a curiosity to me, never has been more then that.
I understand though that it CAN be a marker for the culture someone has.

but I very much agree, one should never hold long term assumptions of a person based on the group they are from.
if they act in a way that shows them as diffrent form your assumptions of them then you need to change those assumptions to macth their actions.

I tend to think culture is more the driver of economic position in the long term, though culture is often inherited so it can be hard to tell what one drives the other.
I think the reality is that both can have effects on each other so that makes simple "A causes B" systems to break down rather quickly.

I tend to think that people find themslefs in the economic position that their actions cause, for example if one always has car debt then they will have a harder time getting past a certain level beacuse of where they have their money tied up.
so Culture acts on ones economic position.

form personal accounts, very expensive repairs are much less stressfull when you can afford to repair them with cash.

I don't think someone is stuck in a culture because of their race, but you will be very likely to adopt the culture you grow up in, that being the one your parents have, so it can almost be like culture is a racial thing because the correlation is so close.
that is all only usefull for first impressions to me however.

now that is less of a race thing and more of a school system thing, I also think that the genders have their own predispositions towards certain things based on what biology demands from that gender.

again, the biological predisposition is nothing that can't be over come.

just a quick check, am i saying anything that is flat out crazy?
I have guests that i would like to spend some time with for a bit.

just a quick responce to Brue before it gets any more stale.
I don't that a persons race really matters either, and I would agree that where they start economicly is more important then the race itself.
thank you for discussing it with me.
and with that I bid you good night.

well, the good news is they are pushing the envelope until something breaks, we don't have to prod in the slightest.

we just have to do our best to make it easy to undo the damage they do.

that i very much agree with, but in this case our enemy is flying the plane with us, so we want them to see the nose dive we are in but we want to be able to take back controll before we hit the ground.

then again, we may need to let them run face first into the ground, because otherwise they will just say "I had it under controll!"

personaly, i don't like either, I want to tell them to move to sanfran if they want those things and leave us out of it.

no they are fleeing sanfran and then voteing for the same things.

they seem to be, yes.

sadly, I think UnScottable is right.

like when the pro-gun people said "so if you ban guns what's next? knives?" and the anti-gun people said "no that's silly"
but now there are places saying that knives should be baned and need GPS trackers in them.

I want to just get these people to agree to move to their own places and let us to move to our own and we will leave each other alone.

people are afraid of being called a nazi, they are not afraid of doing what they did and worse

well if there is a way to do that i'm all ears, but it is clear that they don't care, anything you point to won't be "what i'm talking about" or "I will do it better"

I just want to see the face of the guy at the wind tunnel when you come in with life size modles for that thing.

but when you tell these people "you are acting just like the Nazis" they don't care, even if they agree they are acting like that they say "we won't go so far"

these people are blind, they don't understand or care what their ideal system has done in the past.

didn't the USSR cause just as much death as the Nazis did just after WW2? why do these same people not call out them then?

it's the same thing by another name.

sure, but people still call themselves communist at an alarming rate.

and my understanding of the word "Nazi" is that it's short for "National Sociallist"

and yet people call themselves socialist very often as well.

my point is, these people don't connect the ruleing structure to the ideas of socialism or communism.

and yet they support it fully.

"I don't know what this would do, but we should it full scale" seems like a BAD idea to me.

it does bolth, though I don't know what this conversation was about.

it's important to know how a system is going to deal with the edge cases.

that story about the number of guns that may have been bought on black friday makes me feel good.

good to know that armed people outnumber the ones that can be brought by the government.

yup

if you go around like anyone could blow your head off it really helps with your additude.

well with the topic it isn't surpriseing, it is a little upseting at how little it takes to get marked as such a criminal.

i'm sure we are all criminals with what most would consider "normal" laws.

there are thousands of pages of law per jurisdiction, i'm sure we all have broken enough to be put away for life.

the magic of the market!

funny

how about something like "I could make something that shoots faster with about $10 of crap form any hardware store"?

I have been unable to listen to debate lately, the lack of logic hurts my head sometimes.

what is Sargon's Law?

now that would be a very good idea!

Oh, nice.

i'm surprised someone didn't claim that one sooner.

it seems to be the US democrats mode of operation.

ha

I hate when people do that "would you let me finish" *rants about being interruped few moments*

or stand around saying nothing for a rather long time.

i don't

"Redistribution of wealth" is a rather broad term and could mean any form of taxes.

depends on who you ask.

that's what such systems always end up being

the rich elite are the ones doing the taxation everywhere in the first place aren't they?

I have always thought that free markets (aka capitalism) is good for the poor.

but people don't like it because "the rich have so much more!"
an arguement that I don't understand in the slightest.
(with out assumeing the worst in the person makeing the arguement)

well it's easy to get someone to agree to free stuff for them.

that would be nice, but I don't think that would change most peoples thoughts on takeing more form a class they will never be in.

funny enough, it is basic math that says wealth grows.
we mine more form the ground every day, we find more use for the 'waste' every day.

speaking of, people need to chill with worrying about land fills.