I think you misunderstood me

We *still* demonize the Nazis

Ah my mistake then.

Because of a historic event that went entirely in our favor in exactly the right way, but only for a great cost

That is the hero's journey

It will live on for centuries or millennia

@ARockRaider. The Soviet Union and Russia have been part of the plots of many romanticized movies and novels in the usa

Both aimed at women and men.

sure, but people still call themselves communist at an alarming rate.

I don't know a lot of commies, they're pretty fringe, similar to Neonazis or WN's

and my understanding of the word "Nazi" is that it's short for "National Sociallist"

and yet people call themselves socialist very often as well.

Yeah, that's why I've been working to deprogram people into understanding that Nazis were socialists

Ev n the people here in the USA.the vast majority don't know what a socialist system is.they have an idea that it leads to freedom

my point is, these people don't connect the ruleing structure to the ideas of socialism or communism.

idk about freedom but maybe free housing.

They bought int the whole gender, race,class warfare bs

I've argued with "socialists" before and mainly they have no idea if a socialist system would improve the lives of people or not.

and yet they support it fully.

@Wizard_of_The_West. It's not freedom for the person who has to pay for the housing

"I don't know what this would do, but we should it full scale" seems like a BAD idea to me.

I think certain major cultural shifts need a boogeyman to bring the uneducated and the easily manipulated in line

Right now in the USA, lefty politicians are hollering EVERY PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO HOUSING.

Horseshit if ya wanna try to freeload, buy a tent and live on state land,no charge for that

Politicians must be socialist-leaning, the entire government only works through taxes, i.e. socialist policy

Right, but that's not actual socialism

Anyway, I was mostly spitballing the idea of bringing the ol' memery and mockery to a new, more radical level. Using the information war to speed things up (instead of terror attacks unlike some stupid individuals)

socialist leaning people argue with me in the usa "but we already have socialism, fire department, police, etc.."

nope nope nope. you are allowed to have your own private armed protective services and ambulance, and you can own a fire department too

Well ideas are like webs, each strand leading to a central conclusion and when you follow them you'll get either lost or arrive at the center. The more strands you have the more difficult it is to navigate away from center or find your way. That's why people can't seem to understand socialism or communism because of the web of double think and disinformation put out by the people who have ulterior motives. However every web has structure, the truth, and by using the truth you can help people find their way out.

under socialism, no

Socialism is a spectrum, it's not just all or nothing.

The US is in part socialist.

nope, socialism is monopoly control

that's why us citizens are confused

example

bernies health care plan

Please don't make me debate the definition of socialism again <:tidepodpour:590855656526053376>

bans all private care, PERIOD. if you're tired of waiting in line for a heart operation, you're fucked under bernie's plan

it would be a crime to seek a private surgeon, no spectrum

Dude