Had probation once (non-violent non-felony) and it was a shitshow. Had to move everything to my buddy's gun safe. They almost violated me for the '66 Allin conversion Springfield hanging in the den. I mean do you know what a .50 civil war era black powder ball round costs? I make it go bang every year or so just to make sure FFS.....

lots of criminals here hmmmmmmmmmmmm

defending myself wasn't a criminal act in my mind

well with the topic it isn't surpriseing, it is a little upseting at how little it takes to get marked as such a criminal.

the dudes buddy could have been planning anything after I had dropped his friend

@Jym Can't you just make those?

@ARockRaider that is the real sad part. i mean we probably all are criminals in canadas hate speech laws

i'm sure we are all criminals with what most would consider "normal" laws.

like?

@Goodwood of Dank™

No it's not a standard BP round. This was the first breech-loading rifle issues to the US Army. I get them from a specialist. Imagine fucking up a home-made and ruining a 150 year old piece of history.....

there are thousands of pages of law per jurisdiction, i'm sure we all have broken enough to be put away for life.

Okay. I thought the Allin conversions were done quite a bit after the war, when the Army had millions of the damn things and didn't know what to do with them.

No it was before the first issue of breech-loading Sprinfeilds. Mine was a '64 which was a .66 Cal musket. Allin cut into the breech and put a rolling block chamber into them then choked the barrel to .50 while adding rifling. It was a stop-gap because the Allins could be made from existing stock while Springfeild was re-tooling to make their first breech loaders.

Yeah, I knew that. I just thought the date was different.

It's mentioned in one of the earlier *Destroyermen* books.

There are '66 to '68 Allins. The date is confusing because there's the manufacture date on the musket and the issue date on the Allin. So mine is '66 on the breech but '64 on the barrel stamp. That makes it a 'second' which is odd because they were made earlier. Not sure why that terminology developed. My Gr. Granpaw used it for hunting and eventually I inherited it.

boomer supreme

Sounds pretty cool.

Do you home load?

I have newer more accurate guns but she's my prize possession. It's just interesting how they solved problems at that tech level. Like it has a half-cock that operates a a safety (won't hammer) yet allows access to the breech. Rear-sight is a metal plate on a hinge with holes in it where each hole is 100 yards of range.

I have home-loaded but not for that gun and not recently. It used to be economical for more rounds but really the time spent is not worth it for most ammo compared to doing something people will pay me more for...

the magic of the market!

Kek, understandable. And yeah, the early breechloaders were interesting. The Colt revolving rifle could've been cool, if it weren't for the fact they didn't use metallic cartridges.

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Took longer to load than fire.

Kek, in the probation incident I had to stop myself from saying, "I can beat you to death with that faster than I can load it". Which is absolutely true the thing is 5 ft of steel and hardwood and weighs a ton.

funny

how about something like "I could make something that shoots faster with about $10 of crap form any hardware store"?

You got the bayonet for it?

"Do you even know what makes a good soldier?"
"The ability to fire three rounds a minute in any weather, sir."

I do not have the bayonet. We had it when it was my father's but somehow when it got to me the bayonet was gone. I do have the cleaning rod.

Ah, that sucks.

D'you ever do reenactments?

That's something I really want to try.

Nah I used to do SCA. A reenactment buddy wanted to buy her off me but 4 generations of men in my family have owned this rifle so no.

Oh yeah. You don't get rid of something like that.

That there is a priceless heirloom.

What's SCA?

SCA=Society for Creative Anachronisms ie. guys in armor hitting each other. I have a co-worker who does the modern combat-sport version of it who wants me on his team. But you know at a point in life where it is not worth the injury risk...

Heh, that's interesting.

Watching Mark Ruffalo talk about the failures of capitalism is pretty fucking rich

You are worth 30 million dollars shut the fuck up dude xD