Message from @ARockRaider
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yep, when you control for culture, economic, socio and then even zip code. whites in the rate have the same per capita as the blacks, aka - race means nothing
these people refuse to control for differnent variables
or means very little.
@ArawnBlade i have no idea what anything you said had to do with the point i was making
Given that the majority of influence in certain communities comes from songs that have lyrics about selling drugs and killing people over Colors, Sneakers, etc., it's definitely culture
and often people attach themselfs to a culture based on their race.
a lot of the gun violence is almost def linked to a mentality of kill those who wrong me rather than fight them, its like that scene from friday where he chooses a brick over a gun because he had a father to tell him why the gun was wrong
a brick can still kill someone very easiley, If someone chucked a brick at me I would feel right in assumeing they wanted me dead and I would feel justified in responding accordingly.
lol the brick was used because the guy was like 10 feet tall and solid muscle lol
the message still applies for me
the guy throwing or the other guy?
the guy getting hit by the brick
hmmm.... still, I would disagree with such an attack.
he didnt throw it tho, he hit him in the face with it a few times
its more the message behind it is why i brought it up, fight and both of you live rather than kill and then most likely be killed in retaliation
oh, well in that case it is definitely an attack I would assume means to kill me, reguardless of my size to his.
I would say that a physical attack is something that should only be done as a matter of last resort.
youd have to watch the movie to get it, im not doing it justice, plus its a comedy movie for the most part
oh, didn't know it was a movie, thought you were talking about a recent event in the news.
nah its a movie called friday about people in the hood, that one part felt like it was relevant for the culture conversation that was going on
Hell yeah
I've watched that movie
It's pretty fucking great
It's probably accurate for those communities, too
personaly I work with an asumption that every rule has an edge case.
there isn't much in the way of obvious color diversity where i live and so I don't have to worry about anything past "basic human assumption"
which normally is enough to start with almost anyone.
i'm sure if i lived in an area where there were clear culture lines I would have a "culture A assumption" and a "culture B assumption" that i would start with when ever I met someone new.
it just so happens that cultures are passed on much like genetics, so culture tends to be mistaken for race.
@ARockRaider would be better if it was not racial cultures and just the culture in general in low economic area such as the hood
@ARockRaider and you shouldnt be afraid of the culture when you enter the gated community and see a black family
I never would be
awesome, that was not a comment entirely directed at you, but people in general
oh
i tend to write "you" alot but really i mean it in axiom form like kant
you ought to do this
you meaning everyone in general
Race is nothing more then a curiosity to me, never has been more then that.
I understand though that it CAN be a marker for the culture someone has.
but I very much agree, one should never hold long term assumptions of a person based on the group they are from.
if they act in a way that shows them as diffrent form your assumptions of them then you need to change those assumptions to macth their actions.
the economic factor is the most likly for you to determine the culture of someone.
i would say if i saw a white man who was bald and many tattoos looking into my car on the street, that he is probably lower class and therefore a shitty culture and therefore probably going to break into my car
I tend to think culture is more the driver of economic position in the long term, though culture is often inherited so it can be hard to tell what one drives the other.
I think the reality is that both can have effects on each other so that makes simple "A causes B" systems to break down rather quickly.
elaborate
I tend to think that people find themslefs in the economic position that their actions cause, for example if one always has car debt then they will have a harder time getting past a certain level beacuse of where they have their money tied up.
so Culture acts on ones economic position.