Message from @ARockRaider

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2019-12-03 04:22:14 UTC  

You mean the 'Vaush talks over and interrupts everyone then complains if anyone gets a 1 in 5 minutes of airtime" show?

2019-12-03 04:22:50 UTC  

I have been unable to listen to debate lately, the lack of logic hurts my head sometimes.

2019-12-03 04:23:17 UTC  

Yep. What a spergmeister.

2019-12-03 04:23:29 UTC  

He is the very embodiment of Sargon's Law.

2019-12-03 04:23:52 UTC  

The projection was so real, he could point himself at a wall and show off PowerPoint presentations.

2019-12-03 04:23:55 UTC  

what is Sargon's Law?

2019-12-03 04:24:08 UTC  

I'd like to run debates on a chess clock to guarantee both parties get equal time.

2019-12-03 04:24:18 UTC  

now that would be a very good idea!

2019-12-03 04:24:28 UTC  

"When an ideologue makes a character attack against you, that character attack is usually true about themselves." —Sargon's Law

2019-12-03 04:24:45 UTC  

Oh, nice.

2019-12-03 04:24:54 UTC  

i'm surprised someone didn't claim that one sooner.

2019-12-03 04:25:02 UTC  

Agnosticism = I don't know if God exists.
Atheism = There is no God
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465029567741034507/651277396439203860/20191202_222034.jpg

2019-12-03 04:25:09 UTC  

it seems to be the US democrats mode of operation.

2019-12-03 04:25:14 UTC  

Sargon's Law goes back to at least 2015.

2019-12-03 04:26:24 UTC  

I have (and yes this is autistic as fuck) used a chess clock to time online debates and the share of time used. 90% of the time the guy who is complaining they did not "get to finish their point" used more time than the person they were arguing against.

2019-12-03 04:26:52 UTC  

ha

2019-12-03 04:27:08 UTC  

Kek.

2019-12-03 04:27:48 UTC  

I hate when people do that "would you let me finish" *rants about being interruped few moments*

2019-12-03 04:27:57 UTC  

Gish galloping.

2019-12-03 04:28:02 UTC  

And gaslighting.

2019-12-03 04:28:22 UTC  

or stand around saying nothing for a rather long time.

2019-12-03 04:28:51 UTC  

That's the thing a chess clock is egalitarian. It does not care what you do with your time. It only cares that both parties have the same amount of time.

2019-12-03 04:28:57 UTC  

Vaush was that tiny dog that, when someone slams a door in the next county, starts barking and won't shut the fuck up for the next two weeks.

2019-12-03 04:29:54 UTC  

You can think on your opponent's clock. You can make a stupid move quickly to save time. You can choose where and when to spend your time. But nobody gets any more time than anyone else.

2019-12-03 04:30:16 UTC  

Indeed.

2019-12-03 04:30:31 UTC  

You guys watch the office ?

2019-12-03 04:30:51 UTC  

i don't

2019-12-03 04:31:34 UTC  

Damn

2019-12-03 04:43:53 UTC  

@SuperHeroDeluxe
>people have been tricked into thinking every distribution of wealth is socialist, nope
Redistribution of wealth is an essential part of the definition of socialism.

2019-12-03 04:45:00 UTC  

There are two fundamental ideas of socialism.
1) Redistribution of wealth
2) Collectivization of the means of production
Without either of those ideas, it can't possibly be socialist

2019-12-03 04:47:34 UTC  

"Redistribution of wealth" is a rather broad term and could mean any form of taxes.

2019-12-03 04:47:55 UTC  

Technically you could also collectivize property and that could perhaps be considered socialist as well (if it is done involuntarily), but since it is possible to surrender property *voluntarily* to the public, property going into public ownership is not neccessarily socialist, it can just be trade (capitalism) or a donation (neither capitalism nor socialism).

2019-12-03 04:48:00 UTC  

only if the taxes are used to provide goods to people

2019-12-03 04:48:11 UTC  

food stamps are redistribution

2019-12-03 04:48:14 UTC  

roads are not

2019-12-03 04:48:23 UTC  

No, redistribution of wealth is any form of redistribution, even when it happens upwards

2019-12-03 04:48:25 UTC  

depends on who you ask.

2019-12-03 04:48:41 UTC  

If the poor are taxed and all the spoils go to the rich, that's also socialist.

2019-12-03 04:48:54 UTC  

well yeah

2019-12-03 04:48:58 UTC  

that's what such systems always end up being

2019-12-03 04:49:08 UTC  

just look at any socialist nation <:transdank:462401354745249792>