Message from @ARockRaider

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2019-12-02 19:11:30 UTC  

I don't see the reasoning behind that

2019-12-02 19:11:46 UTC  

We in the free world demonize Nazis not because "you do that for strategic purpose"

2019-12-02 19:12:14 UTC  

these people are blind, they don't understand or care what their ideal system has done in the past.

2019-12-02 19:12:39 UTC  

Because they didn't have their undeniable holocaust yet

2019-12-02 19:12:56 UTC  

didn't the USSR cause just as much death as the Nazis did just after WW2? why do these same people not call out them then?

2019-12-02 19:13:05 UTC  

The USSR was communism, not progressivism

2019-12-02 19:13:21 UTC  

It's very easy to demonize commies

2019-12-02 19:13:32 UTC  

it's the same thing by another name.

2019-12-02 19:13:38 UTC  

How so?

2019-12-02 19:13:39 UTC  

Go watch Japan Know Your Enemy then tell me we don't demonize people before engaging in war with them.

2019-12-02 19:13:54 UTC  

I think you misunderstood me

2019-12-02 19:14:00 UTC  

We *still* demonize the Nazis

2019-12-02 19:14:19 UTC  

Ah my mistake then.

2019-12-02 19:14:21 UTC  

Because of a historic event that went entirely in our favor in exactly the right way, but only for a great cost

2019-12-02 19:14:31 UTC  

That is the hero's journey

2019-12-02 19:14:39 UTC  

It will live on for centuries or millennia

2019-12-02 19:16:50 UTC  

@ARockRaider. The Soviet Union and Russia have been part of the plots of many romanticized movies and novels in the usa

2019-12-02 19:17:17 UTC  

Both aimed at women and men.

2019-12-02 19:17:34 UTC  

sure, but people still call themselves communist at an alarming rate.

2019-12-02 19:18:07 UTC  

I don't know a lot of commies, they're pretty fringe, similar to Neonazis or WN's

2019-12-02 19:19:07 UTC  

and my understanding of the word "Nazi" is that it's short for "National Sociallist"

2019-12-02 19:19:30 UTC  

and yet people call themselves socialist very often as well.

2019-12-02 19:19:53 UTC  

Yeah, that's why I've been working to deprogram people into understanding that Nazis were socialists

2019-12-02 19:19:58 UTC  

Ev n the people here in the USA.the vast majority don't know what a socialist system is.they have an idea that it leads to freedom

2019-12-02 19:20:19 UTC  

my point is, these people don't connect the ruleing structure to the ideas of socialism or communism.

2019-12-02 19:20:27 UTC  

idk about freedom but maybe free housing.

2019-12-02 19:20:41 UTC  

They bought int the whole gender, race,class warfare bs

2019-12-02 19:21:11 UTC  

I've argued with "socialists" before and mainly they have no idea if a socialist system would improve the lives of people or not.

2019-12-02 19:21:24 UTC  

and yet they support it fully.

2019-12-02 19:21:52 UTC  

@Wizard_of_The_West. It's not freedom for the person who has to pay for the housing

2019-12-02 19:21:59 UTC  

"I don't know what this would do, but we should it full scale" seems like a BAD idea to me.

2019-12-02 19:22:30 UTC  

I think certain major cultural shifts need a boogeyman to bring the uneducated and the easily manipulated in line

2019-12-02 19:22:38 UTC  

Right now in the USA, lefty politicians are hollering EVERY PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO HOUSING.

2019-12-02 19:23:34 UTC  

Horseshit if ya wanna try to freeload, buy a tent and live on state land,no charge for that

2019-12-02 19:23:56 UTC  

Politicians must be socialist-leaning, the entire government only works through taxes, i.e. socialist policy

2019-12-02 19:24:40 UTC  

Right, but that's not actual socialism

2019-12-02 19:25:58 UTC  

Anyway, I was mostly spitballing the idea of bringing the ol' memery and mockery to a new, more radical level. Using the information war to speed things up (instead of terror attacks unlike some stupid individuals)

2019-12-02 19:25:59 UTC  

socialist leaning people argue with me in the usa "but we already have socialism, fire department, police, etc.."

2019-12-02 19:26:41 UTC  

nope nope nope. you are allowed to have your own private armed protective services and ambulance, and you can own a fire department too

2019-12-02 19:26:47 UTC  

Well ideas are like webs, each strand leading to a central conclusion and when you follow them you'll get either lost or arrive at the center. The more strands you have the more difficult it is to navigate away from center or find your way. That's why people can't seem to understand socialism or communism because of the web of double think and disinformation put out by the people who have ulterior motives. However every web has structure, the truth, and by using the truth you can help people find their way out.

2019-12-02 19:26:49 UTC  

under socialism, no