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2018-02-13 01:17:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #english]  

Err.

2018-02-13 01:17:28 UTC [/leftypol/ International #english]  

Okay.

2018-02-13 01:17:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #english]  

I did not walk into anything good I se.

Well.

Let's see how this one turns out.

It's not that easy I'm afraid.

I'm a former Christian and that shit gets you enthralled.

But even now I'm religious, just for traditional religion.

You can't necessarily just stop believing.

Beliefs aren't choices, they're formed from your experiences for better or worse.

Along with a factor of how you process those experiences.

Eh.

I consider my beliefs rational.

However,

I do act as an atheist instead of as a religious person,

When it comes to anything professional or important decisions.

Since that IS the most neutral position if you want to make an honest decision.

Eh. I prefer not to do that.

Morals do have importance.

Well for me it comes down to personal experience,

And the fact that my religion holds important information that modern science is recently catching up on.

I cannot however,

Speak for other religions.

Nature cannot make errors because nature does not have intent.

You cannot be errorous if you do not have intent or goals.

It's not an error in logic.

It's bad,

Not errorous.

Bad as in the subjective thing based on your morals.

Oh gods. I hate that bot.

An error, at least in the terminology I am using,

Is to be incorrect.

If I say rocks are made of cloth,

That is an error.

Also, manslaughter can be a mistake,

Because humans can make mistakes.

Our intention via our laws and societies is to NOT kill.

Hence manslaughter.

Whereas nature does not have any such intention.

And if our intentions are to kill,

It isn't manslaughter,

It's murder, which isn't a mistake,

Or it's war.

That depends.

Did you intend to have an abortion?

If yes, then no. If no, then yes.

Again.

It's based on intention.

If you intend to do something,

But that doesn't end up as the result,

It's a mistake.

Except in many cases they do.

Saudi Arabia intends to kill people for various crimes,

So they do.

I don't think my state has the death penalty.

Not sure though.

The way I view it, when making a decision I act as an atheist simply because when you let your religion influence that, it can cloud the results.

For example, if there was a vote on state religion,

On one hand I practice my religion,

However I would act as an atheist in that moment.

And vote for no state religion.

Doesn't seem like a wise thing to me.

State religions,

Historically lead to really fucked up stuff.

Yeah, so under religious law that happened.

And under modern religious law Saudi Arabia still hangs gay people.

And under religious law, typically bad things happen.

I would suggest culture based governments,

Not religious based governments.

Not what I mean.

Basically cultures function different.

For example,

Among Europeans,

Democracy is fairly popular.

But among my people,

It leads to massive problems of corruption.

Because since we have such large and disrpoportionate families,

One family can dominate the entire nation.

No.

Instead it's universally agreed we need our traditional government.

Which instead focused around these families.

Which we called clans.

Each clan had an equal say to one another,

And a function of governing entrusted to them.

Hence it worked better for my people than democracy.

Which is what I mean by culturally centered governments.

To a degree.

Religion can influence culture naturally.

But you shouldn't enforce religion via the state.

For example,

While our clans were foundationed in our religion,

We did not enforce that religion on people.

As such there were Christians too in our nation.

Christian bear clan members and Pagan bear clan members.

That one is messed up in my opinion.

I mean.

I consider all Abrahamic religions bad religions honestly.

But nonetheless Islam CAN be tamed like western Christianity.

It's just going to take a while.

And some work.

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