#politics-free-for-all (Discord ID: 372513679964635138) in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta), page 5

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2017-11-06 18:08:36 UTC

you vastly overestimate how much americans agree with the decisions of their politicians.

2017-11-06 18:08:46 UTC

except gitmo still exists

2017-11-06 18:08:48 UTC

Didn't over 50% of American disapproved the Patriot act when it was suggested?

2017-11-06 18:08:48 UTC

How many congesmen were repleaced because of it?

2017-11-06 18:08:49 UTC

we fucking hate them

2017-11-06 18:08:52 UTC

The people anyway

2017-11-06 18:08:53 UTC

The people anyway

2017-11-06 18:09:00 UTC

It's almost like the people have little control over the american politics because *very few care*

2017-11-06 18:09:10 UTC

What Franti said.

2017-11-06 18:09:11 UTC

The people anyway

2017-11-06 18:09:28 UTC

plenty care its just the corporations money is louder than our words

2017-11-06 18:09:28 UTC

No one cares enough to go follow through with their voting habits on it

2017-11-06 18:09:41 UTC

Ugh my signal is trash

2017-11-06 18:09:42 UTC

If the people hated it they would have them voted out in a heathbeat

2017-11-06 18:09:53 UTC

That is why the build up was released with Trump I think

2017-11-06 18:09:53 UTC

Ugh my signal is trash

2017-11-06 18:10:02 UTC

net neutrality is like over 90% support in the US but its still very contentious in congress

2017-11-06 18:10:28 UTC

Again do you theten them with voting them out?

2017-11-06 18:10:31 UTC

because the telecom corporations bought everyone out

2017-11-06 18:10:48 UTC

and our system doesn't allow for a decent third party to rise

2017-11-06 18:10:48 UTC

and replace them with who? the problem is we have a de facto oligarchy

2017-11-06 18:11:04 UTC

The biggest problem with Congress is that they have no term limits

2017-11-06 18:11:05 UTC

Oligarchy is always inevitable

2017-11-06 18:11:10 UTC

this is why the mainstream media hates trump, he isn't one of them

2017-11-06 18:11:10 UTC

Corps are people my friend

2017-11-06 18:11:33 UTC

yes, but their goals are vastly different from the common man

2017-11-06 18:11:40 UTC

trump is a reaction to democucks and rethuglicans being two sides of the same corrupt coin

2017-11-06 18:12:13 UTC

trump is that snake in the grass you find at your workplace

2017-11-06 18:12:23 UTC

nice to your face but will quite happily slag you off to others

2017-11-06 18:12:51 UTC

yeah, I basically want another Teddy Roosevelt, but thats a huge fucking pipe dream

2017-11-06 18:13:01 UTC

whether you like or dislike trump you can't deny he was a reaction to the corporate oligarchy

2017-11-06 18:13:15 UTC

You need campaign finance reform

2017-11-06 18:13:19 UTC

Trump cobras > Clinton vipers

2017-11-06 18:13:20 UTC

of course

2017-11-06 18:13:35 UTC

I see him more as a response to social tensions and the media

2017-11-06 18:13:42 UTC

TUNNEL SNAKES>Trump cobras > Clinton vipers

2017-11-06 18:13:54 UTC


2017-11-06 18:14:04 UTC

Anti-white sentiment and the demonization of American patriotism

2017-11-06 18:14:17 UTC

@franti of course, thats why I supported wolfpac back during my TYT days, before they went really shit

2017-11-06 18:14:31 UTC

i feel like everyone had a TYT phase

2017-11-06 18:14:39 UTC


2017-11-06 18:15:07 UTC

But for me more as an american left take on things

2017-11-06 18:15:32 UTC

Until they jumped the Sam Harris shark

2017-11-06 18:15:32 UTC

I also watch shapiro for right takes

2017-11-06 18:16:04 UTC

I've started watching Crowder but I haven't really seen Shapiro

2017-11-06 18:16:19 UTC

Crowder is also a lens

2017-11-06 18:16:21 UTC

I watch Shapiro as well, I watch Milo for entertainment purposes, and Larry Elder was pretty good on Dave Rubin

2017-11-06 18:16:22 UTC

I haven't watched Crowder in over a year

2017-11-06 18:16:46 UTC

Crowder's good for Amy Schumer realted stuff, not much else

2017-11-06 18:16:48 UTC

He really pises me of with the whole climate chenge thing

2017-11-06 18:17:10 UTC

@BrianBoru @Soyaman which one of you wrote this?


2017-11-06 18:17:10 UTC

He generally comes prepared and has a reasonable approach

2017-11-06 18:17:43 UTC

The only right-wing dude i've followed contnuously was Naked Ape but he hasn't uploaded in months

2017-11-06 18:17:54 UTC

he is more of a live streamer now

2017-11-06 18:17:55 UTC

Also you dont need a wall you just need to enforce your labour laws

2017-11-06 18:17:55 UTC

yeah, his podcast with Kraut was pretty good

2017-11-06 18:18:00 UTC

but that's gone silent as well

2017-11-06 18:18:25 UTC

Punish the people who hire them

2017-11-06 18:18:27 UTC

im pretty sure he jumps on people like edgy sphinx

2017-11-06 18:18:33 UTC

live stream

2017-11-06 18:18:42 UTC

We do need a wall

2017-11-06 18:18:47 UTC

It's not about jobs ffs

2017-11-06 18:18:48 UTC

I haven't paid much attention to edgy since his return

2017-11-06 18:19:27 UTC

I only time i saw Edgy Sphinx was on the Questions for Ancaps video

2017-11-06 18:19:59 UTC

And Naked Ape's Alt-Right stream

2017-11-06 18:20:20 UTC

Even if the wall keeps out 10% of illegals it will pay for itself by the first year

2017-11-06 18:20:32 UTC

National security

2017-11-06 18:20:41 UTC

We just can't afford to be so porous

2017-11-06 18:20:51 UTC

We lose billions from illegals who pay zero income tax

2017-11-06 18:21:07 UTC

And you need a job to have income

2017-11-06 18:21:18 UTC

That money ends up sent back home to Mexico most of the time

2017-11-06 18:21:33 UTC

Yeha, there was that whole thing with that girl who claimed she was illegal, which she might have been, said she was holing a federal tax form in the photo, and it was a fucking state tax form

2017-11-06 18:21:34 UTC

Leeches gonna leech

2017-11-06 18:22:05 UTC

Illegals paying taxes, that's rich.

2017-11-06 18:22:20 UTC

and it wasn't even filled out, which she said it was

2017-11-06 18:22:25 UTC

A lot of legals also send money back to their home country

2017-11-06 18:22:28 UTC

and TYT ran the fucking story

2017-11-06 18:22:32 UTC

what's going on?

2017-11-06 18:22:38 UTC

Like Nigerians in the UK

2017-11-06 18:22:46 UTC

Politics, Fulcrum. Politics

2017-11-06 18:22:54 UTC

TYT running a story without verifying the information? Imagine my shock.

2017-11-06 18:23:42 UTC

I call the the young genocide denyers

2017-11-06 18:24:07 UTC

The TYTs

2017-11-06 18:24:13 UTC

Starring the Big Brown Buffalo

2017-11-06 18:24:15 UTC

from what I can tell it started off with guns

2017-11-06 18:24:22 UTC

I jumped in a little later

2017-11-06 18:24:29 UTC

Guys I have an idea, I'm gonna make a news site that's all whites except one token Jew and we're gonna be called the Hitler youth

2017-11-06 18:24:39 UTC


2017-11-06 18:24:40 UTC

i'm too lazy to read the whole thing today

2017-11-06 18:24:49 UTC


2017-11-06 18:24:55 UTC

muh guns

2017-11-06 18:24:58 UTC


2017-11-06 18:24:59 UTC

With your host, zyklon ben

2017-11-06 18:25:03 UTC

muh constitution

2017-11-06 18:25:27 UTC

guns are objects, objects can't commit an action without anyone either ordering or controlling it.

There you go, it's done

2017-11-06 18:25:42 UTC

But muh 12cm

2017-11-06 18:25:43 UTC

Nukes are objects...

2017-11-06 18:26:09 UTC


2017-11-06 18:26:21 UTC

not again

2017-11-06 18:26:22 UTC

yeah, you have to give a command to the missle, so it can fly and explode, don't you?

or a nuke will explode just because she feels like it?

2017-11-06 18:26:23 UTC

Fuck guns and nukes! Flamethrowers are where it's at, n iπŸ…± πŸ…± as

2017-11-06 18:26:26 UTC

thousands of nukes exist but only 2 have been used as weapons πŸ€”

2017-11-06 18:26:38 UTC

All are used as weapons fool

2017-11-06 18:26:53 UTC

Pointing a gun at someone is still using it as a weapon

2017-11-06 18:27:15 UTC

flamethrower right to your door

2017-11-06 18:27:29 UTC

Oh baby~!

2017-11-06 18:27:34 UTC

you aren't real until you've made your own flamethrower with a grill igniter and kerosene

2017-11-06 18:28:16 UTC

oh hey im pepes people

2017-11-06 18:28:23 UTC


2017-11-06 18:28:29 UTC

another one?

2017-11-06 18:28:29 UTC

he has accended

2017-11-06 18:28:32 UTC

by some lighters, tape, and bug spray

2017-11-06 18:28:33 UTC


2017-11-06 18:28:33 UTC

2017-11-06 18:28:46 UTC

@DanConway did you just assume my gender shitlord?

2017-11-06 18:28:46 UTC

still 4 lvls away from the next rank

2017-11-06 18:28:47 UTC


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2017-11-06 18:29:01 UTC

there are no women on the internet

2017-11-06 18:29:04 UTC

I think that's rape

2017-11-06 18:29:04 UTC


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2017-11-06 18:29:06 UTC

Go check **/r/SargonOfAkkad**'s leaderboard: <http://mee6.xyz/levels/372507611284766720> :wink:

2017-11-06 18:29:06 UTC


2017-11-06 18:29:31 UTC

if we were in the UK the constabulary would be knocking your door down to arrest you for hate crime as we speak

2017-11-06 18:29:32 UTC

NI πŸ…± πŸ…± ERED

2017-11-06 18:29:42 UTC


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2017-11-06 18:29:50 UTC

I am so close, just a little more and will be licking that pepe taint

2017-11-06 18:29:57 UTC

i will sling muh hate speech from the US

2017-11-06 18:30:04 UTC

guys i have a plan to destroy the EU

2017-11-06 18:30:17 UTC

Doesnt owning a gun threathen the goverments monopoly on violence?

2017-11-06 18:30:31 UTC

And you dont trust your gov

2017-11-06 18:30:53 UTC

we go back in time and kill all the designers of the potential EU flags until this proposed one is the only one available and then everyone will leave the EU because of this flag


2017-11-06 18:31:01 UTC


2017-11-06 18:31:02 UTC

You've ascended to a greener state of being

2017-11-06 18:31:04 UTC

That's the point of the second ammendment, given a highly oppressive government, we get to oust them. It would be extremeley difficult, but possible.

2017-11-06 18:31:19 UTC

I can see the point

2017-11-06 18:31:21 UTC

muh classical liberalism

2017-11-06 18:31:23 UTC

not really actually, 2A is a deterrant

2017-11-06 18:31:32 UTC

it is that in a sense

2017-11-06 18:31:33 UTC

More likely to face violent splinter groups

2017-11-06 18:31:34 UTC

you can't be draconian to people with guns, its just not possible

2017-11-06 18:31:45 UTC

it is a deterrent, but given the worst situation

2017-11-06 18:31:47 UTC

Also good as a defense to occupation

2017-11-06 18:31:52 UTC

its not about an active revolution its about preventing that from ever needing to be neccesary

2017-11-06 18:32:06 UTC

Again you give too much credit to people

2017-11-06 18:32:07 UTC

why not both

2017-11-06 18:32:37 UTC

the second ammendment is there as a deterrnet, but in the worst situation it justifies it to the larger population.

2017-11-06 18:32:51 UTC

sooooo both of you are correct

2017-11-06 18:32:53 UTC

@franti why can't you accept people have individual agency?

2017-11-06 18:33:13 UTC

you really think you know better than other people as to what they should do with their life?

2017-11-06 18:33:18 UTC

fucking collectivists.

2017-11-06 18:33:24 UTC

Why can't you own tanks and such?

2017-11-06 18:33:28 UTC

So you assert that people have free will?

2017-11-06 18:33:32 UTC

you can

2017-11-06 18:33:53 UTC

I'm gonna buy a tank one day and drive it around in an open field

2017-11-06 18:33:58 UTC

yeha, the largest gun a American can actually buy is basically an artillery piece

2017-11-06 18:34:05 UTC

are there any private tanks then? How about some personal nuclear devices

2017-11-06 18:34:05 UTC

people can own tanks

2017-11-06 18:34:06 UTC

pretty big

2017-11-06 18:34:37 UTC

this too

2017-11-06 18:34:37 UTC

does it stand a chance against a modern one?

2017-11-06 18:34:39 UTC

you just can't have the ammo i guess

2017-11-06 18:34:42 UTC

The US government would never Nuke it's own population because they would be destroying themselves

2017-11-06 18:34:44 UTC

It does not

2017-11-06 18:34:57 UTC

An Abrams would fuck that thing up

2017-11-06 18:35:01 UTC

no but these are whats actually available

2017-11-06 18:35:02 UTC

perhaps not, but you could keep them off your backs

2017-11-06 18:35:16 UTC

you can buy an abrams!

2017-11-06 18:35:19 UTC

you don't own a tank to fight with it

2017-11-06 18:35:21 UTC

theres nothing about an abrams that make them illegal to own they're simply not sold

2017-11-06 18:35:22 UTC

how about some private drones

2017-11-06 18:35:25 UTC

you own it to collect it

2017-11-06 18:35:28 UTC

military grade

2017-11-06 18:35:32 UTC

the same thing with a old car

2017-11-06 18:35:38 UTC

you can own a Jet

2017-11-06 18:35:43 UTC


2017-11-06 18:35:58 UTC

there are lots of vietnam era fighters in private hands

2017-11-06 18:35:59 UTC

you might use sometimes, but it's mostly say you have it

2017-11-06 18:36:19 UTC

even if its no good for fighting its still easily usable for air support

2017-11-06 18:36:43 UTC

anti-tank weapons are crazy easy to make btw

2017-11-06 18:36:53 UTC


2017-11-06 18:37:04 UTC

Would get fucked up by an Abrams

2017-11-06 18:37:13 UTC

Molotov coctails were used as anti tank weapons

2017-11-06 18:37:14 UTC

you just register the DD its a $200 tax

2017-11-06 18:37:16 UTC

yeha, but F16s are no pussy fighters, considering the USAF still uses F15s

2017-11-06 18:37:17 UTC

permanently inoperable, doesn't sound very useful

2017-11-06 18:37:20 UTC


2017-11-06 18:37:25 UTC

you can reactivate it

2017-11-06 18:37:35 UTC

not very permanent then

2017-11-06 18:37:50 UTC

never underestimate yankee engineering

2017-11-06 18:37:58 UTC

oh, I'm not

2017-11-06 18:38:00 UTC

all you need is somone with good knowledge of balistics, and that wont be hard to find

2017-11-06 18:38:14 UTC

That doesn't make it legal

2017-11-06 18:38:26 UTC

its legal to reactivate a tank gun

2017-11-06 18:38:34 UTC

Well if their were a revolution were not really conserned with that anymore

2017-11-06 18:38:39 UTC

form 4 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

2017-11-06 18:38:49 UTC

you have to register it as a destructive device with the ATF which requires a background check and a $200 tax

2017-11-06 18:39:13 UTC

you can do the same with grenade launchers, RPGs, etc

2017-11-06 18:39:14 UTC

and each round

2017-11-06 18:39:18 UTC

yea that too

2017-11-06 18:39:31 UTC

but if you can afford a fucking tank $200 tax per shell is nothing

2017-11-06 18:39:38 UTC

but if you can afford it i doubt the

2017-11-06 18:39:43 UTC

... you beat me too it

2017-11-06 18:39:45 UTC

hopefully you'll never have to face a truly oppressive government

2017-11-06 18:39:49 UTC

found this one too

2017-11-06 18:40:10 UTC

There is alway the chance of a civil war

2017-11-06 18:40:26 UTC

Especially with fucking separatists running around

2017-11-06 18:40:48 UTC

Black separatists

2017-11-06 18:41:00 UTC

Mostly white separatists

2017-11-06 18:41:00 UTC

And white beta cucks

2017-11-06 18:41:04 UTC

black? antifa is mostly white and middle class

2017-11-06 18:41:19 UTC

they are an interesting element these days. I wonder how a modern US government would deal with a seperatist state

2017-11-06 18:41:29 UTC


2017-11-06 18:41:35 UTC

I am not talking about Antifa

2017-11-06 18:41:42 UTC

They would crush it

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2017-11-06 18:41:58 UTC

Antifa is the most likely group to commit anything against the government

2017-11-06 18:42:03 UTC

they'd be forced to do something, to make sure the country doesn't collapse

2017-11-06 18:42:07 UTC

Then how does the 2A deter?

2017-11-06 18:42:10 UTC

blm might be draged under it to fight under the same banner

2017-11-06 18:42:18 UTC

The gov has drones

2017-11-06 18:42:22 UTC

but black separatists only? i don't think so

2017-11-06 18:42:43 UTC

They would find the US opressive

2017-11-06 18:42:47 UTC

It's the pan-separatists that are more dangerous

2017-11-06 18:43:09 UTC

Separatist factions aligning to commit treason

2017-11-06 18:43:29 UTC

It is only treason If you lose

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top kek

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And they would lose

2017-11-06 18:44:13 UTC

life would be tough without recognition from the rest of the world

2017-11-06 18:45:11 UTC

And even Africans cant stand African-Americans

2017-11-06 18:45:27 UTC

Morgan Freeman laid it out pretty well

2017-11-06 18:45:36 UTC

He's not from Africa, he wasn't born there

2017-11-06 18:45:39 UTC

He's from America

2017-11-06 18:45:49 UTC

Just like we don't call white Americans European-Americans

2017-11-06 18:46:04 UTC

i love being told all about cultural appropriation **in English**.

2017-11-06 18:46:40 UTC

That's cultural imperialism bro

2017-11-06 18:46:47 UTC

*Tongue clicking sounds*

2017-11-06 18:46:52 UTC

Internalized oppression and whatnot

2017-11-06 18:47:06 UTC

@BrianBoru the only imperialism I aprove

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