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An awfully strong belief in "tradition". It seems a lot of the tradition questions lay its eggs in the religious basket, which I guess is an acceptable way of portraying it, but not quite perfect.

True. But it's an acceptable test nonetheless to get a general idea.

I pretty much answered no to all the religious questions which gave me that. Lol.

@meratrix Do you wish to elaborate on that stance?

If your method of conducting whether it should be legal or not is based off arbitariness then that's not really a good position to hold.

Hash and opium are naturally grown.

Many things are manufactured that is good for you.

So both sides of that coin is just... Bad.

It seems like your opinion on this is more based off popular culture / widespread appeal more so than reason.

Which is fair.

As long as you recognise it.

Hippies.

He's talking about hippies.

It'll lower gang violence, not common violence.

If gang violence is a non issue then obviously it's useless, but if it's the biggest concern then it's paramount. (Of course other drugs play a huge role too so just taking one off the list isn't going to do THAT much)

But despite all the positivity there's also serious health concern that gets ignored by the weed community.

I was gonna watch some hentai but yea sure why not.

How is that communist?

That's why I'm asking. Lol.

Being scientifically progressive is very different from the "Social progressive"

You're all weak as fuck.

I'm European so that's normal.

"The market adjusts itself" is like saying god will help you.
My country's proven itself capable of keeping a strong market whilst the state makes sure the companies don't go too far. So I'm a social democratic on that front.

The globalist marker is mostly because I don't inherently have a problem with programs such the EU and open borders but I also still believe in nationalism. That's not something that can be erased.
Although because it bases its survey off the amount of different questions and not the strong-ness of my feelings of the matters it considers me a globalist.

Example, I would consider Catalonia to be free state should it want to.

EU Project's open borders.
Or Nordic Council.

It's an awkward use of word IMO.

I even voted Neutral on that.

To be honest we kinda already have that partly.

There really isn't any jobs where you don't make enough to make a living.

Or just vote neutral.

Because it's vague.

We need to eradicate religion.

Stalin was a mong though.

It's not really that big of a deal in europe but america has serious religious issues that needs solving.

A lot more secular.

They're on the same level as radical islam.

Persecuting anyone is a bad thing.

*coughs* Self proclaimed socialists of america *coughs*

There are certain schools that teach creationism as equal to evolution.

Sure, it's not ISIS levels of nuttery.
But it's about as religious nutjob you get.

Fair.
But it still doesn't make it any less of a problem.

Right.
I might've used some overly harsh words, Brian.
But it's a threat to the fundamentals of western society values still.

It's something that needs to be looked at seriously.

And quickly too.

Is it? Because it was recently put into a bunch of states.

Not the other way around.

It might've been in Louisiana.

Gonna have to look it up again.

Now who's on the wrong side of the fence?
It not being related to national security doesn't make it any less of a problem.

Shit. Then why not give up all your rights then.

It's easier to secure the nation if no one has any rights.

I conceded the point that it's not a comparison to radical islam.

@OppoQuinn the Democratic Party of the south. Yes. The Republican Party used to be the northern progressive one.

Mass knifing?

One's a tool.

A gun is not a tool. It has one purpose.

So in what way can you use a gun then?

So you're undermining your own point by making a different statement.

Hunting and defense are both using the gun for killing.

No, it's not. Not even close.

I never made that statement.

I never made that statement either.

You made the, apologise the rudeness, but. Retarded statement that a gun can be used as a tool. Which it cannot.
Comparing them to knives, which are tools. Is not the same comparison.
If you're comparing them to swords? Sure. Then we can compare it.

I never made any statement on whether guns should be banned or not.

You just made that implication because you're trying to defend guns using retarded logic that you cannot see your own faulty arguements.

Yes it was Jek. A knife wasn't. A sword was.

Different countries have different laws on this.

Length of blade, concealment, etc.

It varies. There's no one answer.
But you can compare all the numbers and use the common denominator if you want.

In Switzerland it's legal to own guns.
Guns are not considered tools.

I mean we're statistically more civilised.

Either way, Jek. No one is trying to tell you you shouldn't have guns.
But for the love of sense. Stop trying to defend "A gun is a tool"

Because that's literally retarded.

*sighs*

It can be used *as* a weapon. But it isn't inherently a weapon.

As if that somehow proves your point, but go on.

Things made for killing are weapons by default.

You're trying to argue that because you don't use your sword to cut down people it was never made for cutting down people to begin with.

There is.

Most kitchen knives are made to cut meat but not necessarily cleave through a man.
A cleaver is made to cleave the bone in meat on a table but it's horrible to try to cleave down an actual person. For that you have *larger* and generally sharper *weapons* made.

Also generally known as. Here it comes. Swords.

Swords are weapons.

Guns are made for killing, they're inherently weapons.

You're literally not helping your cause here mate.

Your logic is so far out of the window it's not even funny.

@radeon
Dude.
Again. You're jumping to conclusion. If you want to have a genuine discussion, sure. But you've proven yourself way too screechy and immature for that by now.
But you're making the assumption I'm anti-gun based off the fact that I'm trying to call a gun a weapon.

Facts over fantasy.
This is what americans can't understand. Your politics are in shambles because of it.

#NotAllAmericans

There are certain designs which are inherently banned because they're distinctly considered a weapon. Regardless of length.

"If I can't get a definite answer if only some of them are or all them are. None of them are."

Sure, Vertigo. But you can still look at something before the fact and look at which is easier or made for stabbing.

A trench knife is not made for cutting fucking steak though is it?

*Divert discussion*

*Arsenal of 27 guns*

Could shorten that down. "Quick poll, who's retarded"

It's a bit ironic being called eurotrash when it's the country of liberty that has an odd resurgence of genuine communists.

Not all commies are antifa, but sure.

Oh I know

The french guy

Lecron?

They literally sang L'Internationale.

Because that's how your countless rallies has ended right?

Vigiliance is not legal.

So it's not lawfully.

It depends on the state, no?

It's called human rights.

But yea, sure.

A little.

But they do exist.

Only if you're black or a woman.

So you believe you have a right to kill people but the government is denying it you?

It's almost like there's someone enforcing laws.

Get your hunting license boys.

Hunting lodges usually.

It's almost like the people have little control over the american politics because *very few care*

What Franti said.

No one cares enough to go follow through with their voting habits on it

Louder with crowder. Lol

Why’d you even watch that shit

Not really.

Some of it. Maybe. But overall. No

He plays too much into party politics. He’s literally mainstream media but indie

Low bar.

A self serving conservative though. He doesn’t seem as interested in improving his own group as much as just discredit the other one

Self critique is important if you want genuine improvement.

I know we’re on sargons discord but he’s not much better

In the English media? Genuinely. No one person.

No one is interested in actual politics. More afraid of the big bad sjw. Meanwhile the nhs is being sold off to private investors and whatnot.

You can watch who you want but barely anyone touches on anything valuable and if they do. Generally it plays into party politics

I never said there's no strain. But in party politics facts are generally thrown out of the windows in favour of "I prefer this"
You get MORE strain the more parties you have with different solutions to a problem.
But as long as people agree on the facts you can then decide if you care about them or not.

And I don't ask people to be ideologically pure, but rather just be honest about the problems at hand and the decisions that needs to be made.
People are so afraid to make their own side look weak they end up conjuring lies to cover it.

I don't know where you got that word from.

As mentioned earlier. Most "political" youtubers avoid actual politics.
I implied Sargon avoids real daily politics in favour of talking about some moronic blogger. Which is fine, but it's doing little on the political debate.
I never said Sargon was dishonest. From what I've noted (albeit I don't watch ALL of his stuff) he generally seems to cover the material properly when something is brought up, but he has to handpick the few things he wants to talk about.

The disbenefit of not being a major network, you can't cover everything. So it's fair. I just think he priotises things incorrectly.

@DanielKO You referring to Sargon's cock or his ass?

But no, in all honesty. Sargon's main channel is largely irrelevant on the political front.
There's a video every now and then that touches on topics but a fat majority of it is just "Bleh". Such as SJW, feminists etc.

Yo, if you're watching his channel to see SJWs and feminists get slam dunked, you do you.
But don't come and try to claim it as some kind of political insight. (Which some people do)

Okay.
But do they have any seats in parliament?

Sure.
If you're just interested in fighting a social war and not a political one that's fine.

The fire department who got a huge paycheck cut and then handed out a "inflation adjustment" which took into account fuck all when she said there's no money tree (Theresa May)
Despite pulling the money tree on to give MPs a pay rise.

See that's political.
That affects people.
I don't think those firemen cares what some edgy kid says on a uni ground.

That's relevant but is largely detatched from SJWs and feminists.

Legacy media is an issue when not handled properly. It's not a global issue. It's an issue in english speaking countries.

By English speaking I of course mean majority english. Not Europe as a whole. England, Australia, US, Canada etc.

@BrianBoru The most recent paradise papers was leaked through "legacy media". Food for thought (German, mind you)

And TV Media journalists alike.

You can't discredit all TV media on the same grounds.

A republic has to be democratic.
But not democratic for the people.
It could just as easily be democratic for the elite, I.e nobility, the rich, other politicians etc. These are not new concepts.
Venice was a republic for example.

2017-11-08 11:27:48 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

Retards.

Can we stop making fun of black people? It's not their fault they're born inferior.

Can someone explain me this "We were kangz" meme.

I mean..

If they came from the sudanese region, sure.

But african americans barely if ever came from that part of the world?

Wouldn't it be better to consider themselves descendants of Mali or Timbuktu?
You know. Mansa Musa? The guy who literally ruined the middle eastern economy with a single visit.

I've never heard of these people to be honest.

Or anyone saying such a thing.

But I don't associate with niggers so..

This strikes me as a *Group of people* get butthurt over something *idiots* said and vastly overbloats it.

Kinda like SJWs and feminists..

No, I mean people get butthurt over what SJws and Feminists say.

Again, I've no idea who these people are.

Implying the west is not great now?

LOL. That is some fucking mental gymnastics right there.

I'm kinda disappointed though.
I was expecting per capita shooting and I was ready to dig up my rusty knowledge of local shootings but no.
His report equals that of a 15 year old. A real shame to be honest.
I have seen "genuine" reports on this kind of thing in the past though and they were interesting to read but.. Geez.

You have to go back several decades to a literal world war?

And you do not consider this intellectually dishonest?

That, as well as the fact that it's several decades ago.

But I'm glad that you can see the flaw.

With that said though, I do believe in the reports I read about in the past it seems there was more shooting per capita in europe than in america, but I know that some terrorist attacks was factored in, so I don't know exactly how far away it is.

I was just was afraid your position on gun violence was so frail you'd have to resort to flawed arguement to strengthen your platform. (Not uncommon mind you)

I don't know to be honest.
Most of my friends (americans) realise there's a problem with gun violence but can not really come up with a solution which is about right for the situation as a whole.
But then you have the defensive gun owners who needs to justify it to others.

In fairness I don't know these defensive gun owners personally I only see them write articles or get butthurt in comment sections of various articles of videos.

But I do have some very gun happy people that I play ArmA3 with who doesn't just shrug it all off.

Eugenics is not really a conservative thing though.

It's literally quite the opposite.

2017-11-10 23:23:04 UTC [Sparta #breaking-news]  

@radeon Actually christianity isn't sole responsibility for the fall of the Roman Empire and Islam actually brought a surprising amount of stability to the middle east for centuries.

Are they outdated concepts that even back then was outdated by the chinese ideals of "Legalism"?
Yes. Obivously.
But let's leave critism where critism is due and leave their past "glories" if you can call them that be.
Erasing history for our modern needs is not a path you want to take.

2017-11-10 23:44:51 UTC [Sparta #breaking-news]  

Yep.

2017-11-11 02:34:56 UTC [Sparta #breaking-news]  

Wtf is bbc talking about now

2017-11-11 02:35:12 UTC [Sparta #breaking-news]  

A united Europe was Churchill s idea

Private police. I can protect myself

@Fulcrum010 what has he done ?

2017-11-12 04:45:03 UTC [Sparta #breaking-news]  

Anything east of the "Rich line" as I like to call it, of Germany is Eastern Europe. RIP Hungary and Poland.

"Anarcho-Communism is Dumb and Won't Work"
Anarchism is dumb and won't work.
The whole ancap vs ancom debate is stupid because both sides are equally stupid.

Protecting private and public property.
Or people as a whole.
If everyone just "Protected themselves" what's to stop a bunch of gangs roaming the streets?
Sure people could form a mob and stop it. But isn't it better it gets stopped before that happens ?

2017-11-16 22:56:10 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

Let's be fair though.

2017-11-16 22:56:18 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

He does have 3 hour long videos complaining about feminists.

2017-11-16 22:59:44 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

Everyone with an ideology is trying to hijack society.

2017-11-16 23:00:23 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

But how you personally define "complain about" is up to you.
Debate, complain, discuss, ponder, de-bunk. W/e

2017-11-16 23:03:30 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

*coughs* trickle down economy *coughs*

2017-11-16 23:03:47 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

I dunno, they're not much worse than some of the demagogues in power currently.

2017-11-16 23:03:53 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

I'd settle for something inbetween.

2017-11-16 23:05:48 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

That works too.

2017-11-16 23:05:59 UTC [/r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #twis]  

But that requires an actual collective effort.

2017-11-18 00:21:28 UTC [Sparta #breaking-news]  

It's almost like these people have no morals.

2020-03-07 21:05:28 UTC [Blue Politics #debate-chat]  

Fascists aren’t interested in conversation.

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