its the 2nd hit that will get you

In Germany there's no "excessive force" until the threat ends.

Also, it's called Castle doctrine

if the UK government wanted to simply ignore all your rights and set up a police state there is nothing you could do to stop it

Or something like that, Joerg from the Slingshot Channel said it.

@radeon there is, but thats kind of out of the subject

such as?

I have the legal right to defend myself and my property

what are you gonna do, report the police to the police? write a strongly worded letter to your MP?

The US has also done draconian steps toward it, remember the PATRIOT act?

Complain to the US lol

"free man of the land"

the patriot act is indefensible yea

yeah, I fucking hate that shit, and want it gone

the US isnt perfect

The patriot act is defensible

Overly broad maybe

Yet people gave these rights up with enthusiasm

We didn't approve of the Patriot act.

no, we have been trying to get rid of it since it was put in place

you vastly overestimate how much americans agree with the decisions of their politicians.

except gitmo still exists

Didn't over 50% of American disapproved the Patriot act when it was suggested?

How many congesmen were repleaced because of it?

we fucking hate them

The people anyway

The people anyway

It's almost like the people have little control over the american politics because *very few care*

What Franti said.

The people anyway

plenty care its just the corporations money is louder than our words

No one cares enough to go follow through with their voting habits on it

Ugh my signal is trash

If the people hated it they would have them voted out in a heathbeat

That is why the build up was released with Trump I think

Ugh my signal is trash

net neutrality is like over 90% support in the US but its still very contentious in congress

Again do you theten them with voting them out?

because the telecom corporations bought everyone out

and our system doesn't allow for a decent third party to rise

and replace them with who? the problem is we have a de facto oligarchy