https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-0.25&soc=-2.51

Ramadan bombathon?

Trucks of peace

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401051626284253185/445133469979377674/image-37.jpg

I didn't save my compass test, or I lost it but I'm about 5 ticks towards libertarian and just a tad right of center.

Hmmmm

I also take issue with the image of a scale being used for "equality". The imagery suggests something like equality under the law. However, equality under the law breeds economic inequality.

what? how?

Maybe

I'm reading into it too much.

Or are you asking how equality under the law breeds economic inequality?

Should be called "Equity".

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
Yeah, how does it breed economic inequality?

I mean, the ideal would be everyone being the same under the rule of law

Wait are you serious? You think it's ideal for everyone to have the same level of wealth?

Or are you just saying that everyone should be treated equally by the law?

Certainly, it's true that the people should have equality under the law, blind justice and so forth.

But let me ask this question: How is wealth created?

The answer to this question is you create the conditions which allow for the people who know how to create wealth to go ahead and do so.

I'm fairly certain those words were picked to cause what your doing mate

like, each side is value laden to signal to those upon it

That's fine EmptyE just allow me to make my case.

So then they create that wealth, by their own labor and management of assets as well as the labor of others.

sorry

So when you allow people to create their own wealth, they have to be able to keep what they create via their own labor as well as through freedoms of association and conctractual associations.

To set and negotiate their own prices for their labor and their products.

So people who are better at creating more wealth, which exists naturally, will be able to create more wealth if they are not restricted by inequalities under the law.

More than other free individals who do not as effectively fulfill an array of variables used to create wealth.

Perhaps they did not negotiate as well for the price of their product.

Perhaps they did not acquire comparable goods with which to manufacture resulting in an inferior product regardless of quality of labor.

Is this beginning to sound like a defensible position?

I'm not really sure that what you are saying stands up EmptyE. I mean, all the words I'm using are standard language among the conversations of economics and equality versus equity.

What?

one does not means the other

you are talking about wealth

i'm talking about the rule of law

the 8 values

its labeled equality because the people who end up there like that word

https://imgur.com/a/KIEiAM3

Well, that's me. Wouldn't have considered myself that moderate.

it's says `Neo liberalism`

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I'm disgusted at myself too.

I'm pretty conservative next to others here, then again I suppose I don't have anything against drug legalisation and gay marriage.

I don't know what you're saying pornochet >.>

my point is if everyone is treated equally, some people will work harder than others and accumulate more wealth

equality under the law leads to inequality of wealth

I genuinely just had someone tell me to my face that Nazis weren't Socialists

that was

an experience

BUT THEY WEREN'T REEE

SOCIALISTS ARE GOOD GUYS

NAZIS ARE BAD

THEREFORE THEY CAN'T BE SOCIALISTS

THE NATIONAL SOCIALISTS AREN'T SOCIALISTS

Tbh the feds shouldn’t be involved in drugs or gay marriage

Its bad because you not allowed to be patriotic or white.

Here's an interesting twitter thread https://t.co/T4DDD9UWf0

@Legiondude if your still interested in that thread; I'd say its important to note that if you just expand the scope a little we can see that Left Populism also gains traction - Spain, Greece and yeah UK: despite claims otherwise, Corbyn does have working class support even if his activists hate them and seem to do everything they can to get them to leave. Not to really argue for the left side, more to say it seems that 'Populism' accross the spectrum is on the rise because of anti-elite sentiments that hes correctly pointed at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPUoCpOX0E

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] I'm a simple man, I see 1791L and upvote

@Deleted User https://twitter.com/1791L/status/997486046576234497

damn that sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VQULyT390

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2f3MRQiyFo

>identitarian
>claims that others engage in "identity politics"
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She's still young

She hasn't joined up her spagetti yet

Also she's blonde

So take everything she says with a pinch of salt

Like I have been for 20 years.

she's a thot broo

@frantihttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/i-was-at-the-gaza-border-we-did-all-we-could-to-avoid-killing/

Did you watch the video? @Deleted User

She certainly doesn't distance herself from participation in identity politics, quite the contrary actually.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/8khf5y/leftists_doxxed_and_harassed_unite_the_right/

> What I find baffling is why the fuck aren't we doing the same to people who believe and support communism? Which way more fucking dangerous than what this dude believes.

> He killed himself because he's a snowflake who plays his identity politics and wants his own brand of social justice.

These sorts of comments are truly disgusting.

I can't stand fucks who approve of suicide.

Meming that we want to throw communists out of helicopters and whatnot is one thing but taking a real instance of someone who took their own life and treating that person like they were nothing is among *the most degenerate* behavior that exists. This is pathetic verbal bullying of the utmost.

@Deleted User @Broo TulsiGang 2024 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

What's funny about Lauren, is the fact that she made her career saying "identity politics is bad" now she made a 180° and it's trying to say "no, our identity politics is good their is bad"

This is just stupid

Dude. You guys need to watch the video. The whole "no, our identity politics is good their is bad" is exactly what she is arguing against.

Literally.

That's the stance she argues against.

I'm not even saying she's without fault or anything but you guys ought to hear her out at least, that's why I posted the video.

Oks, what's he point on the video?

Why are you asking me what the point of the video is when I just told you?

You said what she does, I'm asking her main point

Her main point is that saying "no, our identity politics is good their is bad" is hypocritical.

What she does in the video is...............................................

......................

....................................

...............

argue her main point.

***S H O C K E R***

She made a similar video before

Anyway, I find hard to believe she saying that wheh she is advocating for a identitarian group all the time

Well, if you just want to complain without watching the video, then it is what it is.

Oks, so why would she advocate against Id politics when she is becoming the poster girl of a id politics group? @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]

So, she is lying wheh she agrees with them, or she is lying on this video

She isn't arguing against identity politics. I didn't say she was.

So, why would I waste my time watching a video for Id politics?

Whatever, man.

Lol

I thought she made an interesting point.

Yeah, I will watch it later

Although as I said, I don't believe she is arguing against it

Her previous video about thr subject was pretty much saying "everything is Id politics and some of them are good"

oh god

yeah, I saw the title of that video

was like ugggggh

Then she started to hang around with generation identity waaaaaay more

"Its ok when we do it" Lauren Southern

And now she makes a video like this? Quite easy to understand why I'm "skeptical™" of the whole thing

I didn't see that video so I'm just taking this one on its own.

I will watch this one, but I don't believe it will be much different than the previous one

Brb

Thomas fell for honeyed words of a thot

Oh, let me see the video

Nvm, I will watch it later

Also, she has half a mil subs? Pussy power is real

Never doubt the power of pussy

Female privilege is real

Gas the thots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJthe8a_CT0 This is why "progressives" and even a small select group of self proclaimed liberals are the biggest enemies to the American people from within the United States and Western Civilization. They don't deserve to have either liberty or safety on the same soil as we do.

Responding to political extremism with extremism?

No way would this backfire

^

^^

lol

dat face of shock and horror

This Michelle something was so weak

The Black guy went for shock humor, victimization and drama

@franti If it means keeping the rights of everyone else intact, then so be it. To be anti-gun is to be anti-American, I mean if they are afraid of inanimate objects so much than this isn’t their home. They should go to Australia if they love gun confiscation so much.

@BobbyE
Yeah, this will definitely end well

It's not because they disagree with you they they should lose their rights

It’s not even based on them disagreeing with us, it’s because the very idea of taking away everyone’s guns is dangerous and can’t be tolerated by the rest of society.

It’s like getting rid of the first amendment because it allows “hate speech.”

Again, removing rights of people because they don't agree with you is stupid

That kind of rhetoric should be respected or be encouraged anywhere.

Look I don’t want to get rid of my political opponents, but we’re getting closer and closer to an authoritarian nanny state thanks to these progressives or as I like to call them regressives, and they have a shit ton of support.

Doesn’t that concern you?

Would you want your country to go down a path where literal SJWs run it? I don’t think so.

This seems like a excuse to go authoritarian

To go authoritarian on other authoritarians, it’s not an excuse, it’s a last resort to ensure the survival of everyone else’s personal liberties. If I want to keep my right to self preservation and other liberties for me and my children’s children, I’m willing to do it.

it's a excuse

it's actually a weakness

the black dude reminded of the lawyer from Seinfeld

@Ϻ14ᛟ @M4Gunner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTy1eNCQXDk This is why I like Tim Pool, he calls out other journalists and helps us cut through the bullshit with an expert's take on journalism. Sure, we know this stuff is going on, but Tim helps us identify it in more detail.

@Deleted User NIGGA. You guys are shitting on me when you literally haven't even watched the video and think it is literally the opposite of what it is about. LITERALLY. The tism is strong. At least watch the video first. There's no pussy power or any of that shit going on. I started watching that video thinking I was going to disagree like you guys but IMO Lauren makes an interesting point. Again, I'm not saying she's without flaws, and I'm not even saying she's right. I just thought it was interesting, and I think she made some valuable input to the conversation which stands on its own.

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
the pussy power is about her amount of subs, not views

^

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]

Oks, what's the point you liked?

i mean, so far, all i see is her bitching about why they haven't done the same for "wipipo"

yeah, she is being dumb about identity politics, the summits for blacks and latinos is to bring votes from those 2 groups who have a historic of not voting for right wing polices, it's the same thing as making a summit in California, to gather more right wing votes, i really don't see how this is ID politics, i understand why she is making that point ( as i said before, she is becoming the poster girl of an ID politics group).

To me, this video seems like an attempt to normalize ID politics saying that everyone do it so it's ok when she and her group does it

identity politics
n. - Political attitudes or positions that focus on the concerns of social groups identified mainly on the basis of gender, race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation

So by that definition, what TPUSA is doing *is* identity politics. That is, the political attitude focuses on blacks, the position being that it is not in the interest of blacks to vote disproportionately for the DNC. TPUSA has decided to respond to the message black americans have heard for so long, which is "Hey, if you're black, you have to vote for the DNC," with a simple "Hey, if you're black, you don't have to vote for the DNC, and maybe you shouldn't. Here are some reasons you should consider the alternative, etc."

This is identity politics. However, I don't believe this message is inappropriate, and it seems Lauren doesn't either. Lauren's point is simply that it is hypocritical for TPUSA to condemn identity politics while using them nonetheless. Now, in my opinion, this argument, **by itself**, stands up perfectly fine. However, if Lauren wants to go on and try to advocate for white identity politics, that'd be another conversation. She is correct to point out the hypocrisy of "identity politics for me and not for thee". On the same hand, and this is my extrapolation of her argument, the discussion would be better facilitated if we were able to discuss why one particular approach to identity politics is wrong and why the other is supported by facts, rather than simply denying that TPUSA's campaign makes use of identity politics whatsoever.

To extrapolate further, I would argue that one of the reasons the identity politics of TPUSA are justified is because their ultimate purpose is to combat identity politics. This may seem oxymoronic, like the phrase"peace through war", but we may come to find nonetheless that such a phrase remains consistent when context and nuance are considered.

The purpose of the ID politics of the left are to persist indefinitely, whereas the ID politics of the right (generally speaking) are to appeal to blacks to transition away from thinking and voting monolithically.

Regarding the summits, she did not say that the summits themselves were unjust, but that it is hypocritical to hold an event which clearly embodies ID politics while on the other hand condemning ID politics outright.

@Deleted User @Fulcrum010 I really want you guys to consider how she opens the video; "Sometimes people just want an engaged conversation and have no interest in the drama aspect of it..."

I apologize for the wall of text but yall got me started 😄

What's wrong bud?

I will read, but not now lol, I'm talking to some people

are you having problems in real life?

Plus, I honestly can't see good will from her

But yeah, I can understand why you liked her point

Sure, and she may very well have some other intentions, but I would never want to let that lead me to deny something which appears truthful on its own when I hear it. I haven't really been keeping up with her lately so I'm looking at this video as being seperate from whatever else she may be up to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBDXgNOqS_A

Where's BLM's voice about this? (cricket noises)

JBP eat da raw chicken ``CONFIRMED``

Wtf lol

Fuck off we were always gunna win Kentucky

I could win Kentucky with both my thumbs up my ass

wtf broo

u wot?

It was defeat a Clinton by any means

and then cover up the damage

Normally I'm fueled by Love

but during that time I was fueled by Hatred

when I get angry

things shift

POTUS going figuratively nuclear.

Can you give a link @DanielKO ?

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If you give me the gallons, I'll light the match

Things I can't do.

Save my Wifes Life

Get Sargon into Bristol

Get Trump into London

Things I can do

burn a Commie

I can't get Lauren Southern off the BANNED list

but I can get her out

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/jordan-peterson-response-to-hitler-comparison/

Yeah that's very good

For the record, the :sensiblechuckle: emote was for the Corbin joke.

Alot of it is being called Nazi when you clearly aren't

Or calling Broo Alt-Right, which is a big mistake

These words have weight, they can be insulting

don't throw them around like candy

I'm no snowflake

and I don't mind banter

but call me that and I'll ruin your day

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scottish-independence-debate-referendum-independent-scotland-a8360131.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scottish-independence-debate-referendum-independent-scotland-a8360131.html

I reposted cus I have the power

I'm still not sure

I do not like her

Listen to Dankula

on her and you basically get how I think

wat

u wat m8

steelin muh scottish habbenings

you're pro Brexit but anti Scottish independence?

yeah

I didn't vote Brexit

but I've changed my mind

but certainly I cannot have Scotland being separate

they must not separate <:sargoy:382978736053551104>

Creed of the Centrist

I voted Remain but would now vote Leave

Exterminate the scots

I started in the Bernie Campaign but ended up in the Trump

BUT Scotland stays in the UK

It will be very bad if they leave

why?

(for u)

For me specifically

My surname is Scottish

but we are based in England

we will sell everything

I will move the few family I still have in the Highlands to England, Canada or the USA

Why not kick them out?

They’re socialist bastards anyway

It gets worse if Corbyn wins the UK

We are all leaving

everyone

so I'm gunna do my level best to stop that

by any means necessary

we did it to Hillary

<:kermit_spree:378719408438116352>

but in 2 years time we might have to do that to Jeremy

and atm

it doesn't look good

but we said that in 2016

Helicopter ride for Corbyn when?

Soon

I did say in 2016